# Cancelling the Obamas? WTF

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193 "2021-04-02T00:16:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/61 "2021-04-02T20:08:18Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Or, call it High School McHighSchoolFace.

That’s really, really hard on the spirit teams & boosters.  
“Let’s Go McHighSchoolFaces!” & “Fight Visages Fight!” don’t have the right ring.

But, no - this isn’t cancelling by any sane definition of the word (to the extent that there is any sane definition of the word).

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/62 "2021-04-02T20:17:11Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> That’s really, really hard on the spirit teams & boosters.  
> “Let’s Go McHighSchoolFaces!” & “Fight Visages Fight!” don’t have the right ring.

So what I think I hear you saying is that you can’t countenance this name change.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/63 "2021-04-02T21:34:37Z")

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Pointing out the ridiculous and hypocritical nature of the woke left is not doomsquawking.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/64 "2021-04-02T21:35:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Pointing out the ridiculous and hypocritical nature of the woke left is not doomsquawking. -

Lying about it is.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/65 "2021-04-02T21:47:07Z")

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Yup. And posting deliberately inflammatory lies, on purpose to provoke an angry response that you can then complain is too “agitated” and “easily pissed off”, is trolling.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/66 "2021-04-02T21:58:32Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Pointing out the ridiculous and hypocritical nature of the woke left is not doomsquawking.

What do you find “ridiculous and hypocritical” about the parents’ actions here? And why do you identify them with “the woke left”? (Hmm … because they’re not anglo and white?)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/67 "2021-04-02T21:59:33Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> You’re not defending a fellow righty, you’re defending an idiot.

I mean, if you defend a random righty, you’re pretty fucking likely to be defending an idiot.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/68 "2021-04-02T22:19:20Z")

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Can we cancel this stupid thread?

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/69 "2021-04-02T23:01:27Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> I’m with Octopus on this one. I mean, first they came for the Obamas, and I said nothing…for I am not an Obama. Seriously, who is next, Waffles and Mochi?

They didn’t come for the Obamas. Some people expressed a preference for naming a school in their community after someone other than the Obamas. That’s not what coming after the Obamas looks like.

What does not coming after the Obamas look like to you? All schools must be renamed in honor of the Obamas no matter what the people in the community think of the Obamas?

That’s fucking ridiculous you fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/70 "2021-04-02T23:01:45Z")

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Hark! The plaintive whine of the fuzzy-headed spineless Doomsquawker! Such beautiful yellow plumage!

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/71 "2021-04-02T23:33:33Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> That’s fucking ridiculous you fucking moron.

Cancelling people sounds like a woooosh.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/72 "2021-04-02T23:53:53Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I say being easily pissed off is the larger character flaw. It’d be nice if the left demonstrated agency instead of reacting in an instinctive or Pavlovian fashion.

It’d be nice if “six members of the Latinx community in the Waukegan Community Unit School District 60” were not suddenly regarded as the undisputed representatives of “the left”. It would also be nice if you and the raving redneck loon with a blog referenced in the OP did not try to ridiculously mischaracterize a simple vote on a school name as some kind of nefarious leftist plot.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/73 "2021-04-03T00:00:09Z")

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It would also be nice if this board wasn’t overrun with group think where posters can slander 10s of millions of other fellow citizens as racists, bigots, Nazis, etc merely because of party affiliation. That sort of behavior happens all over this board and is rarely if ever shut down. Picking on the woke in the pit is at least a so-called safe space for now.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/74 "2021-04-03T00:02:22Z")

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Which party affiliation has 10s of millions racists, bigots, Nazis, etc?

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/75 "2021-04-03T00:07:06Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> That’s fucking ridiculous you fucking moron.

You may wish to look up from your knee-jerk - there is something whooshing overhead. (For the record, “Waffles and Mochi” was the big hint.)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/76 "2021-04-03T00:20:33Z")

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I’m confused. Is there any reason to call someone a “Nazi” other than party affiliation?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/77 "2021-04-03T00:20:35Z")

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I think it’s pretty easy to repudiate the repugnant beliefs or actions of segments of your own party. I see liberals do it all the time – _far_ more often than conservatives, particularly in the last Presidency.

What you’re (constantly, and in horribly disingenuous fashion) trying to do is get people to simply side with you in opposition to something they really don’t oppose – at least not on its surface, and not in all cases.

And that’s ignoring for the moment the ridiculous false equivalence between the harm that _you think_ the “woke left” does and the real, profound, and lasting effects of the activities of “racists, bigots, Nazis, etc.”

I _get_ that you’re trying to paint them as equivalent. It’s just asinine is all.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/78 "2021-04-03T00:26:45Z")

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Defending those who march with nazi flags will do it, too. Although you have a point, only Republicans make excuses for nazis marching with flags.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/79 "2021-04-03T00:39:18Z")

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By your ‘logic’ the ACLU is the 2nd coming of the 3rd Reich.[ACLU History: Taking a Stand for Free Speech in Skokie | American Civil Liberties Union](https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie)

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/80 "2021-04-03T00:39:53Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> To many Republicans, Obama is evil incarnate. So the fact that some liberals would oppose a school being named after Obama, generates a “wow!” gobsmacked response. They think, “If someone like **Obama** isn’t good enough for them, they must be far, _far_ left.”

I imagine right wingers trying to understand this.

"So what’s the political advantage these activists get from protesting against Obama?  
“None that we can see.”  
“So they’re making money from it?”  
“No, not as far as we can tell.”  
“Is it a sex thing?”  
"No.  
“Okay, I don’t understand. What is motivating these people to do something that isn’t benefitting them?”  
“I don’t know. But I did some googling and apparently there’s this thing called ‘principles’.”  
“Principles? What are those?”  
“I have no idea.”

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