# Candidate for mayor shouts "Go back to Africa!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722 "2017-07-20T15:06:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/21 "2017-07-20T20:22:12Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Based on recent discussions on this board, I suspect we might have a few Dopers come in and tell us that it’s not necessarily racist to tell a black person they should go back to Africa.

I don’t suppose it would be sporting of me to point out that [Jesse Nevel](http://jessenevel.com/) is white.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/22 "2017-07-20T20:33:48Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I don’t suppose it would be sporting of me to point out that [Jesse Nevel](http://jessenevel.com/) is white.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

He meant that only African Americans who are white should go back to Africa, not all African Americans. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/23 "2017-07-20T20:40:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Based on recent discussions on this board, I suspect we might have a few Dopers come in and tell us that it’s not necessarily racist to tell a black person they should go back to Africa.

These days its all about “Its not actually illegal” rather than “Its not racist”.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/24 "2017-07-20T20:47:48Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Florida.

Again poor Florida went blue a few years ago and nearly did so last year and in 2000. Their rep is way overblown.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/25 "2017-07-20T21:14:07Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Again poor Florida went blue a few years ago and nearly did so last year and in 2000. Their rep is way overblown.

It’s still a fucking dump, full of dumpy fucked up people doing fucked up things to each other, no matter how they vote.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/26 "2017-07-20T21:17:29Z")

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/27 "2017-07-20T21:23:35Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I don’t suppose it would be sporting of me to point out that [Jesse Nevel](http://jessenevel.com/) is white.

Well, it was already mentioned in post #5…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/28 "2017-07-20T21:27:43Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I don’t suppose it would be sporting of me to point out that [Jesse Nevel](http://jessenevel.com/) is white.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

So what?

> [@](#):
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> Congemi, 60, later elaborated on his comments in an email to the Tampa Bay Times.
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> “Yes: I did tell those people to go back to Africa,” Congemi wrote. “My remark was meant for the group Mr. Nevel represents. Not all African Americans. Just those that Nevel represents.”

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/29 "2017-07-20T21:55:28Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> … Dude in Florida wants Black activists to go back to Africa. Same dude also believes Obama becoming president was reparations somehow.\*

Would it be safe to guess that this gentleman answers “Extremely” when Gallup asks him how patriotic he is?

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/30 "2017-07-20T22:03:08Z")

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Well, he’s come in dead last in every election he’s been a part of, drawing “just a handful of votes” each time. Which probably means he’ll be our next President.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/31 "2017-07-20T22:12:33Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Well, he’s come in dead last in every election he’s been a part of, drawing “just a handful of votes” each time. Which probably means he’ll be our next President.

We need an OUTSIDER to clean up the mess in Washington DC!!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/32 "2017-07-20T23:01:31Z")

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I’d tell Charlize Theron to go back to Africa as soon as I had my house officially designated as African territory. Maybe I could host a consulate or something.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/33 "2017-07-20T23:02:42Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Well, he’s come in dead last in every election he’s been a part of, drawing “just a handful of votes” each time. Which probably means he’ll be our next President.

He first needs to be the center of a reality show for 10 years. After that, who knows?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/34 "2017-07-21T13:50:21Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> So what?

The group he represents is the Uhuru Solidary Movement.

> [@](#):
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> The National Steering Committee adopts the following articles for the Constitution and Bylaws for the Uhuru Solidarity Movement by authority of the National Central Committee of the \*\*African \*\*People’s Solidarity  
> Committee (APSC) as directed under the resolution adopted by the \*\*African \*\*People’s Socialist Party USA (APSP USA) on July 14, 2010.

Emphasis added.

They identify as **African** people - not African-American, African. ‘Go back to Africa where your movement started and quit demanding money from us’ is a legitimate criticism, even from one nutcake to another.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/35 "2017-07-21T16:29:04Z")

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There’s enough nutcake to feed a cotillion in this story.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/36 "2017-07-21T16:42:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I don’t suppose it would be sporting of me to point out that [Jesse Nevel](http://jessenevel.com/) is white.  
> Regards,  
> Shodan

> [@](#):
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> Congemi, 60, later elaborated on his comments in an email to the Tampa Bay Times.  
> “Yes: I did tell those people to go back to Africa,” Congemi wrote. “My remark was meant for the group Mr. Nevel represents. Not all African Americans. Just those that Nevel represents.”

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> So what?

Just the uppity ones who don’t know their place (in the cotton fields or the slave quarters)?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/37 "2017-07-21T23:07:33Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Based on recent discussions on this board, I suspect we might have a few Dopers come in and tell us that it’s not necessarily racist to tell a black person they should go back to Africa.

You nailed it. See Shodan’s post.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> The group he represents is the Uhuru Solidary Movement.
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> Emphasis added.
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> They identify as **African** people - not African-American, African. ‘Go back to Africa where your movement started and quit demanding money from us’ is a legitimate criticism, even from one nutcake to another.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

You cannot seriously be asserting that “Go back to Africa” directed to a Black in America is not racist. Maybe–and only just maybe–“Go to Africa” in this case might–and only just might–be not racist. Way back when some Americans were embracing communism, those White Americans were not told to go back to the Soviet Union; they were told to go to the USSR. This jackass candidare uttered a racist comment in the heat of the moment. And now he’s digging the hole deeper. My curiosity is now piqued–I can see why someone, for fun say, would lend the jackass a shovel to dig said hole. What I do not understand is why you want to jump into that hole with him.

> [@Wilson](#):
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> I really, really should know by now not to read the comments on a news article.

Oddly enough, that article does not appear with comments for me. Guess I’m lucky.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/38 "2017-07-21T23:13:10Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Based on recent discussions on this board, I suspect we might have a few Dopers come in and tell us that it’s not necessarily racist to tell a black person they should go back to Africa.

As long as they go to Monrovia, it’s okay.

Anyhoo…should Texas and Florida now be merged and be forced into secession?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/candidate-for-mayor-shouts-go-back-to-africa/791722/39 "2017-07-21T23:17:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I’d tell Charlize Theron to go back to Africa as soon as I had my house officially designated as African territory. Maybe I could host a consulate or something.

I read a while back about a high school that decided to have an election for “African American Student of the Year” and decided against it when a recent emigre from IIRC Zimbabwe who was blond and blue-eyed tossed his hat into the ring. :smack:

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