# Can't decide if they're attractive or not...

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [September 5, 2001, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855 "2001-09-05T13:54:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/21 "2001-09-05T23:47:04Z")

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Sometimes I think there are two Brendan Frasers and two Nicholas Cages.

In some movies (_It Could Happen to You, The Mummy_), they’re gorgeous!

In others (_Raising Arizona, Airheads_), they have a kind of trailer park trash (in Cage’s case) or skaterat (in Fraser’s) look going which I find completely unattractive.

I think they’re both actually sets of identical twins…one buffs up and does the whole Hollywood star beauty regimen thing and the other is a skinny, heroin-addicted, hollow-eyed trailer queen.

jayjay

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### Author: ![katiekilldare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/838e76/32.png) [@katiekilldare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katiekilldare)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2001, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/22 "2001-09-05T23:51:34Z")

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**Stephen Rea** is another one. He seems goofy in photographs, but then while watching him in a movie (_The Crying Game_, for instance) I wonder what I was thinking before. He’s super cute, all of a sudden.

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### Author: ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/23 "2001-09-06T03:21:51Z")

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**Mauvaise** - Yup, I heard about it awhile ago and have been avidly awaiting it ever since. I even relish the “24” commercials, just for glances of him. \<Sigh\>

Back to the topic at hand…  
I’d say Julia Roberts. She strikes me as someone who wouldn’t be considered gorgeous were she not famous. It’s more of a love it or hate it look. I saw her in another movie, “Flatliners” (also w/ Kiefer Sutherland), and she looked way more subdued. I’d consider her better looking in that one, actually.

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### Author: ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/24 "2001-09-06T03:34:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by katiekilldare \*  
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> What about **Chloe Sevigny**? Is she pretty? I’m thinking not so much. \*\*

You think right. I think she’s hideous. I can’t decide if I’m happy for her (“Score one for we ugly people!”) or peeved (“Why wasn’t ugly in when I was suffering through adolescence?”)

And I realize I’m going to get creamed for this, but Helen Hunt and Jodi Foster are also going on my list.

To add a guy, Ray Liotta, even though most of the time I lust after him.

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### Author: ![katiekilldare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/838e76/32.png) [@katiekilldare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katiekilldare)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/25 "2001-09-06T03:37:56Z")

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Ray Liotta can look pretty good - courtesy of extra-good lighting.

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### Author: ![anenquiringmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anenquiringmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anenquiringmind)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/26 "2001-09-06T03:43:14Z")

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Matthew Myhoneyhoney:

Well he used to be…

For about 3 months he was just it, so cute, so handsome,  
but then almost overnight he turned downright ugly!!!  
How did he do that???!

the Wahlburg guy: Dont get that at all…  
Sarah Jessica Parker: she just screams UGLEEEE! Just what kind of fools do they think people are anyway? Just because  
she advertises beauty products and has her picture taken a lot we are supposed to think she’s pretty? She should have done something about that nose a L O N G time ago. Has nice hair though.

The girl with the GIGANTIC forehead and heart shaped oily face  
whats her name? Dont get that either… blecchh

Julia Roberts: One moment she’s stunningly beautiful, the next minute all you see is the very wide nose and that odd shaped mouth.  
Katharine Zeta Jones:  
Now thats a perfect picture of prettiness.

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/27 "2001-09-06T03:56:23Z")

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Britney Spears. Now that’s she’s “legal” I feel better about typing this. Forget about her music for the moment. She really does have a kind of sexy, womanly figure now that her hips are broadening out but her face is a real puzzlement. In looking at pictures of her mother you can see directly where it is going and it’s not a pretty place. It’s a hard leatherish seamed look with narrowed eyes that looks like too much makeup covering too much sun and cigarette smoke damage.

It’s amazing how fast she’s beginning to look like her mother.

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### Author: ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/28 "2001-09-06T13:19:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by anenquiringmind \*  
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> The girl with the GIGANTIC forehead and heart shaped oily face  
> whats her name? Dont get that either… blecchh  
> \*\*

Would that be Christina Ricci?

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/29 "2001-09-06T13:40:34Z")

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There’s a bunch of women out there with The Forehead that Ate Miami–Christina Ricci, the lead singer of Garbage, and Tyra Banks leap to mind–who are otherwise stunning.

How about Liza Minelli?

And whatever happened to Mary Tyler Moore’s mouth? Back in her Dick Van Dyke Show days, she had a fairly normal mouth. Now, she’s in the same league as Julia Roberts.

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### Author: ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/30 "2001-09-06T13:50:45Z")

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> _Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
> \*\*  
> Melissa Joan Hart_\*

yes, yes, oh [God](http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/girl_29.html), yes.

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### Author: ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/31 "2001-09-06T13:53:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by katiekilldare \*  
> \*\*What about **Chloe Sevigny**? Is she pretty? I’m thinking not so much. \*\*

OK, now you people are just joshin’ me…

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### Author: ![katiekilldare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/838e76/32.png) [@katiekilldare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katiekilldare)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/32 "2001-09-06T14:15:23Z")

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I’m not joshing about [Chloe Sevigny](http://www.chloesevigny.com/chloe_pictures/blond_curl.jpg).

Somewhat cute girl (if you kind of squint your eyes), or boy in drag?

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### Author: ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/33 "2001-09-06T14:16:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> **There’s a bunch of women out there with The Forehead that Ate Miami–Christina Ricci, the lead singer of Garbage, and Tyra Banks leap to mind …**

I’ve often wondered what James Vanderbeek and Christina Ricci’s love child would look like…

FOREHEAD BOY!

[Mike Myers]\*\* HEAD! PANTS! NOW! \*\*[/Mike Myers]

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### Author: ![anenquiringmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anenquiringmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anenquiringmind)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/34 "2001-09-06T14:29:15Z")

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Yes, Christina Ricci! That’s who I was referring to, I KNEW, you guys would KNOW who I was talking about. 🙂

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### Author: ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/35 "2001-09-06T15:31:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by bordelond \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> > **There’s a bunch of women out there with The Forehead that Ate Miami–Christina Ricci, the lead singer of Garbage, and Tyra Banks leap to mind …**
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> I’ve often wondered what James Vanderbeek and Christina Ricci’s love child would look like…
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> FOREHEAD BOY!\*\*

We like to refer to people with HUGE foreheads as having “FIVEhead”.

also, I think Sarah Jessica Parker is very hot. Sometimes she looks a little weird, but I’d do her in a heartbeat.

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### Author: ![seawitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@seawitch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seawitch)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/36 "2001-09-06T17:31:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> **How about Liza Minelli?**

In my younger days, I was compared to Liza a time or two. I never could decide whether it was a compliment or not.

Also, I saw a promo for an upcoming film (sorry, didn’t catch the name) starring Billy Bob Thornton. He has a clean shaven chin, and a full head of hair. It makes him oddly attractive, and throws me completely for a loop. If I’m thinking Billy Bob is cute, there _must_ be something wrong with me.

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### Author: ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/37 "2001-09-06T18:26:02Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by astro \*  
\*\*Britney Spears.

In looking at pictures of her mother you can see directly where it is going and it’s not a pretty place. It’s a hard leatherish seamed look with narrowed eyes that looks like too much makeup covering too much sun and cigarette smoke damage.

## It’s amazing how fast she’s beginning to look like her mother. \*\*[/QUOTE

Bizarre, I was just thinking yesterday that Britney’s going to age in a very hard manner.

And Sandra Bernhardt? She reminds me of an image burned into a Mexican tortilla.

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### Author: ![nineiron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e56c9b/32.png) [@nineiron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nineiron)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/38 "2001-09-06T19:02:47Z")

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The one that, for me, fits this category, is the girl on Dharma and Greg. Not Jenna Elfman (she’s cute enough, though), but the one who plays her friend Jane. I think the actress’s name is Shae D’lynn (sp?). I can’t decide if she’s hot, in a freaky sort of way, or just really freaky looking.

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### Author: ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/39 "2001-09-06T20:27:38Z")

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Sarah Jessica Parker actually used to be beautiful. In the early-to-mid 90s, in films like _Holiday in Vegas, Hocus Pocus,_ and even _The First Wives Club_ she was hot.

Then at the end of the 90s along comes _Sex in the City_ and I couldn’t believe what had happened to her. Someone on AOL remarked “Looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit her face on every branch.” I have a theory that the present SJP is an imposter. She assassinated the original (beautiful) one and hid her body and took her place.

Billy Bob Thornton is a good example of the opposite trajectory. In _Sling Blade_ and _U-Turn_ he was everybody’s idea of the Ugly Inbred Redneck from Hell. Then he marries Angelina and next thing you know he loses weight and winds up handsome. Maybe some of her good looks rubbed off on him.

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### Author: ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2001, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-decide-if-theyre-attractive-or-not/79855/40 "2001-09-06T20:31:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by VanLandry \*  
> \*\*There’s something about Martina Hingis I find incredibly attractive… But for the life of me and I cant figure out what it is. \*\*

DITTO!

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