# Can't kill them all, a-hole. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469 "2015-02-12T12:36:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/21 "2015-02-12T20:43:36Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I’d be really surprised if he was charged with a hate crime, aren’t they required to be a little more indiscriminate? From what I have heard from an expert discussing this on the radio, whether it is a “hate crime” or not is legally irrelevant. In NC, the “hate crime” designation is only used to bump up a crime from misdemeanor to a felony. Murder is already a felony. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/22 "2015-02-12T20:56:19Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I’m not sure why he can’t be both motivated by bigotry and an irrational overreaction to a parking issue. > > Either way, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was mentally ill. Sounds like an equal-opportunity hater who goes around looking for things to be pissed about. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/23 "2015-02-12T21:06:56Z")
My wife and I lived in that condo complex two decades ago when we were grad students. I’ve found these murders particularly chilling. It sounds like he was a misanthrope. Other neighbors have described him as always angry. His wife (who apparently was in the process of divorcing him) says that his favorite movie was “Falling Down”. He thought it was hilarious. ☹ Middle-aged white guy with a gun and a chip on his shoulder. The parking dispute may have been the flashpoint, but he was angry at the world and at religious people in particular. I don’t think he killed his victims solely because they were Muslim, but I believe that the fact they were Muslim contributed significantly to him wanting to kill them. By all accounts, Deah, Yuzor and Razan were lovely people. What a shame. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/24 "2015-02-13T02:56:08Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I just park my 89 honda right behind them, lock it, and leave it there. > > I see it as a public service, they’re taking up 2 spaces, I’m taking up zero spaces, and teaching them about parking etiquette. And balance has been restored to the universe. > > You see, karma doesn’t exist on its own. It’s something we do. Two acts of being an asshole don’t make a right. Not that I believe for a second you really do this, internet tough guy. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/25 "2015-02-13T03:22:54Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > From what I have heard from an expert discussing this on the radio, whether it is a “hate crime” or not is legally irrelevant. In NC, the “hate crime” designation is only used to bump up a crime from misdemeanor to a felony. Murder is already a felony. That’s true as far as NC goes, but there’s also a federal law (18 USC 249) that provides for up to life in prison if you kill somebody based on their “actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin” or their “actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability”, if, among other things, “the defendant employs a firearm, dangerous weapon, explosive or incendiary device, or other weapon that has traveled in interstate or foreign commerce” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/26 "2015-02-13T04:26:50Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > You can smugly tell yourself that when you find you car keyed, tires slashed, windows broken, or sugar in the gas tank. It’s an 89 Honda. How would he notice? ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/27 "2015-02-13T06:32:31Z")
I admit I was surprised when I found out the guy was supposedly an atheist, I figured if anything he would be some fundamentalist Christian. I suppose if you were a misguided misanthrope it would give you an excuse to hate even more people. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/28 "2015-02-13T13:31:17Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > That’s true as far as NC goes, but there’s also a federal law (18 USC 249) that provides for up to life in prison if you kill somebody based on their “actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin” or their “actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability”, if, among other things, “the defendant employs a firearm, dangerous weapon, explosive or incendiary device, or other weapon that has traveled in interstate or foreign commerce” Does triple murder in NC carry a penalty of less than life in prison? Not sure how the feds are relevant here, as they’ll never prosecute unless NC passes on it. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/29 "2015-02-13T14:37:57Z")
10 years ago if his Facebook page (or Myspace or whatever) said he liked video games, then the headlines would be how the video games made him a killer. Before that it would be because that he had a Marilyn Manson album. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/30 "2015-02-13T15:22:07Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > The “parking dispute” angle strikes me as pretty credulous. In the history of the country, how many parking disputes end in execution-style murders of three young people inside their apartment? Rage killing? Sure. Going to their apartment and popping a bullet in each of their foreheads? I’m not seeing it. Remember when “Road Rage” (up to and including the use of guns) was all the news could talk about? “Going postal”? Some small number of people are just walking stress cases. It’s difficult to predict when and why they could snap. Some situation that seems trivial to you and me could do it, when all of the right “stress” conditions line up. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/31 "2015-02-13T15:41:50Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Remember when “Road Rage” (up to and including the use of guns) was all the news could talk about? “Going postal”? > > Some small number of people are just walking stress cases. It’s difficult to predict when and why they could snap. Some situation that seems trivial to you and me could do it, when all of the right “stress” conditions line up. And how many instances of rage crimes involve execution-style murders inside an apartment? I’m just saying that the facts as we know them suggest something more going on than _just_ the parking dispute. ---
**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/32 "2015-02-14T02:20:19Z")
If a “parking problem” leads one to murder, the problem is not parking. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/33 "2015-02-14T16:13:24Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Parking spaces are neutral when it comes to religion. That seems to have more to do with this than religion. > [@elbows](#): > > The guy had issues with other tenants over parking rules apparently. And while women in headscarves may have irritated him or caused him unnecessary fear, it does seem to be more about parking than being an atheist. Of all the people he “had issues with,” the ones he chose to murder were the identifiable Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/34 "2015-02-14T18:27:48Z")
There was just something in the news today about somebody who stabbed her upstairs neighbor to death for playing music too loudly. People get set off by the stupidest things. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/35 "2015-02-14T18:44:53Z")
It might have been rap, though. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/36 "2015-02-14T19:55:57Z")
What’s pathetic is that 1000’s of Muslims will attack and burn Christians and their churches over this. Like Charlie Hedbo, it doesn’t involve Christians (or Jews) yet they will be made to pay for anything done to a Muslim, anywhere in the world, for any reason. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/37 "2015-02-14T23:40:51Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > What’s pathetic is that 1000’s of Muslims will attack and burn Christians and their churches over this. Like Charlie Hedbo, it doesn’t involve Christians (or Jews) yet they will be made to pay for anything done to a Muslim, anywhere in the world, for any reason. What’s the word I’m looking for… ignorant? … backward? … unenlightened? ETA: Whatever it is, it means “400 years behind me in spiritual development.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/38 "2015-02-15T00:00:22Z")
When you organize your terrorism with an iPhone, you don’t get to claim ignorance and medievalism. When you react within minutes or hours of news of a lone crazy in the US doing something bad, you don’t get to claim ignorant medievalism. You are connected. You are aware. You read the latest news and information, and you burn churches anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/39 "2015-02-15T02:25:28Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > What’s pathetic is that 1000’s of Muslims will attack and burn Christians and their churches over this. No they won’t. Sadly, I can’t give you long odds though. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469/40 "2015-02-15T05:09:58Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > When you organize your terrorism with an iPhone, you don’t get to claim ignorance and medievalism. When you react within minutes or hours of news of a lone crazy in the US doing something bad, you don’t get to claim ignorant medievalism. You are connected. You are aware. You read the latest news and information, and you burn churches anyway. What do you have to say about the recent burning of mosques in the US? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-kill-them-all-a-hole/712469.md?page=3)