# Can't stop the schadenfreude (Holly Hobby Lobby in the news again) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 21, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481 "2015-01-21T13:41:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/1 "2015-01-21T13:41:14Z")
Holly Fisher, aka Holly Hobby Lobby, social media star, military wife and mother, [defender of conservative values](https://thisistwitchy.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/holly-fisher-hobby-lobby.jpg) and all around [clueless moron](http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/files/2014/07/explain-difference.jpg), was exposed by a conservative blogger for [sleeping with a tea party staffer at a convention](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/gun-toting-christian-mom-admits-to-cheating-on-combat-vet-husband-with-tea-party-staffer/). I know it’s none of my business, and I shouldn’t care, and they have a right to privacy, and this is childish, but… well, here I am enjoying it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Holdsworth\_Effect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/848f3c/32.png) [@The\_Holdsworth\_Effect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Holdsworth_Effect)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/2 "2015-01-21T14:02:39Z")
Wonder if he kept his hat on? (Just had this random visual of Alice and the Mad Hatter ;)) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/3 "2015-01-21T14:37:47Z")
Hmm. Her husband has been trained and equipped with semi-automatic weapons. She has been trained and equipped with semi-automatic weapons. If Hollywood pitched a movie about this, it’d be, “…Its ‘American Sniper’ meets ‘Mr. and Mrs. Smith’. The public will Love it…!” :smack: Coming to a theater near you! (So duck.) ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/4 "2015-01-21T19:24:46Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > [clueless moron](http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/files/2014/07/explain-difference.jpg) The union should always be in the upper left of the flag, whether displayed vertical or horizontal ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/5 "2015-01-21T19:28:28Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Hmm. > > Her husband has been trained and equipped with semi-automatic weapons. She has been trained and equipped with semi-automatic weapons. > > If Hollywood pitched a movie about this, it’d be, “…Its ‘American Sniper’ meets ‘Mr. and Mrs. Smith’. The public will Love it…!” :smack: > Coming to a theater near you! > (So duck.) I don’t know how well trained she’s been. It looks like piss poor trigger discipline to me, although it’s a low-res photo. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/6 "2015-01-21T19:28:28Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > The union should always be in the upper left of the flag, whether displayed vertical or horizontal Yes, but where she is makes a difference. If the flag is behind her, I agree. If she’s hiding behind the flag, the picture might come out that way. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/7 "2015-01-21T19:29:04Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > The union should always be in the upper left of the flag, whether displayed vertical or horizontal Mounted to a wall, granted. The flag in that photo is pretty obviously on a staff placed into a bracket on the house. Raising that staff to vertical would need to keep the union on the TOP, yes? Or is she only supposed to allow it to be photographed from the other side? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/8 "2015-01-21T19:33:05Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Mounted to a wall, granted. The flag in that photo is pretty obviously on a staff placed into a bracket on the house. Raising that staff to vertical would need to keep the union on the TOP, yes? > > Or is she only supposed to allow it to be photographed from the other side? It’s deliberately part of the composition. I wouldn’t make a similar complaint of, say, the Iwo Jima image. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/9 "2015-01-21T20:44:17Z")
I’m picturing her riding him like a cheap mule, while she holds the rifle in one hand and the bible in the other, while screaming “I’m coming, Jesus!!” ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/10 "2015-01-21T20:50:00Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > The union should always be in the upper left of the flag, whether displayed vertical or horizontal Not always. When displayed horizontally on the side of something with a “front”, the stars go in the upper right to imply forward motion. E.g., a flag patch on the right arm of a uniform. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/11 "2015-01-21T20:56:35Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’m picturing her riding him like a cheap mule, while she holds the rifle in one hand and the bible in the other, while screaming “I’m coming, Jesus!!” I’m picturing her being ridden by a cheap mule. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/12 "2015-01-21T21:13:28Z")
What if we just start a thread called “People Who Did Something Hypocritical” and watch as it exceeds 6,000,000,000 posts. I just can’t get worked up about this. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/13 "2015-01-21T22:45:06Z")
You are not supposed to get worked up, you are supposed to point and laugh. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/14 "2015-01-22T03:50:25Z")
Well, she \*\*\*has \*\*\*forgiven herself, so that’s hunky dory. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/15 "2015-01-22T04:08:11Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > It’s deliberately part of the composition. I wouldn’t make a similar complaint of, say, the Iwo Jima image. Photographic composition has nothing to do with flag protocol. The display here is correct as is, and would definitely be wrong if reversed. However, the composition _does_ show her to be a clueless moron. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/16 "2015-01-22T11:51:19Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I don’t know how well trained she’s been. It looks like piss poor trigger discipline to me, although it’s a low-res photo. Are you thinking that she has one finger on the trigger? I can’t quite tell for sure either, but I kinda think I can make out some parts of four fingers outside the trigger guard. But just barely, and not for sure. ETA: Anyway, she needs to stay out of Wal-Marts. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/17 "2015-01-22T13:23:41Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Are you thinking that she has one finger on the trigger? > > I can’t quite tell for sure either, but I kinda think I can make out some parts of four fingers outside the trigger guard. But just barely, and not for sure. > > ETA: Anyway, she needs to stay out of Wal-Marts. Yeah, it looks to me like she has her index finger on the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/18 "2015-01-22T13:25:24Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I don’t know how well trained she’s been. It looks like piss poor trigger discipline to me, although it’s a low-res photo. > > > [@Senegoid](#): > > > > Are you thinking that she has one finger on the trigger? > > > > I can’t quite tell for sure either, but I kinda think I can make out some parts of four fingers outside the trigger guard. But just barely, and not for sure. {…} I can (I blewed it up real good!) four fingers on the grip and it’s just light reflecting off of the trigger. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/19 "2015-01-22T14:38:49Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > Yeah, it looks to me like she has her index finger on the trigger. I think you are right. At first I thought that could have just been a reflection in a really grainy photograph, but looking closely, you are right. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481/20 "2015-01-22T17:22:07Z")
I love it when idiot moralizers get hoisted on their own petard! Just another hypocrite to add to the long list of assholes who would rather thump a bible than read it [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-stop-the-schadenfreude-holly-hobby-lobby-in-the-news-again/710481.md?page=2)