# Can't talk about legal marijuana?

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**Created:** [October 21, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-talk-about-legal-marijuana/671885 "2013-10-21T23:34:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-talk-about-legal-marijuana/671885/61 "2013-10-29T18:01:32Z")

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I wonder how this board would have reacted to the anti-war movement in the last half of the 60s. A time when people stood up to the government and said, no way are we going to be part of this bullshit, law be damned. Then burned their draft card.

Clearly illegal at the time, yet history has painted a different picture altogether.

Would the board allow discussion of those issues if they were current events? Would it allow discussions on options to the draft?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-talk-about-legal-marijuana/671885/62 "2013-10-29T20:43:04Z")

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Oh, it’s just pot. Contradictions there may be, but there are nice message boards devoted to all things cannabis, and Youtube has all the how-tos you could want.

Don’t trim fan leaves. Those are the energy makers.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-talk-about-legal-marijuana/671885/63 "2013-10-29T21:24:00Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> Too lazy to search, but I seem to recall a thread about how to evade the current anti- same sex marriage laws in Oklahoma by going onto the [[URL=“http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/10/22/21083988-native-american-gay-couple-to-wed-in-oklahoma-under-tribal-law-despite-state-ban?lite”]Cheyenee Arrapahoe reservation to get married.](http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/22/21083988-native-american-gay-couple-to-wed-in-oklahoma-under-tribal-law-despite-state-ban?lite)
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> Unfortunately this loophole only works for Native Americans, but if someone found a loophole that would work for all “to evade a currently existing law”, I’d be profoundly disappointed if the mods deleted the thread. But as always, YMMV.

As noted, there’s a difference between breaking a law and finding a loophole in the law. Due to the nature of how marriage works, it would be difficult for a gay couple to break marriage laws. The only way I can think that the law could actively be broken would be if one member of a gay couple impersonated the opposite sex in an attempt to get married in a state where same-sex marriages are illegal. But I don’t think that would work because the marriage would just be declared invalid when the ruse was revealed.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-talk-about-legal-marijuana/671885/64 "2013-10-29T21:33:10Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I wonder how this board would have reacted to the anti-war movement in the last half of the 60s. A time when people stood up to the government and said, no way are we going to be part of this bullshit, law be damned. Then burned their draft card.
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> Clearly illegal at the time, yet history has painted a different picture altogether.
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> Would the board allow discussion of those issues if they were current events? Would it allow discussions on options to the draft?

I was wondering the exact same thing about the 1860s and the Fugitive Slave Act or tax evasion by the colonists in the 1760s. This place is rotten with hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cant-talk-about-legal-marijuana/671885/65 "2013-10-30T00:31:39Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Finding a loophole is not the same thing as breaking the law. The two gentlemen who were married at the reservation are legally married. There’s nothing illegal at all about their union, and telling people how to get around the law the same way they did is not the same thing as telling people how to break the law.
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> It’s also worth noting that laws against gay marriage do not limit the actions of citizens, but of the state. If two guys in Alabama want to rent out a church, throw a big wedding, and start calling themselves married, they are free to do so. The law does not prevent that. What it prevents, is the _state_ calling it a marriage. Generally speaking, it is not possible for a private citizen to violate anti-SSM laws.

I thoroughly understand the distinction, I just don’t agree with the board’s policy on it. E.g. if there was a Justice of the Peace, who was willing to BREAK the law to marry same sex couples in Oklahoma, I’d be all for it. And if said JOP posted here on the Dope about how he broke that law & was able to marry same sex couples, in spite of the ban, I’d be all for it.

But then again, I think laws prohibiting same sex marriage are wholly immoral, unethical & unAmerican, so violating them is something I would support. I get the sense the OP feels the same about mj laws.

That said, I understand the board’s policies & have derailed this thread enough. So I’ll stop now & let it go.

FTR, I am not gay (in spite of my user name ;). I just support equal rights for all people and get my panties in a bunch when others don’t see things my way 😉

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