# Canted-in rear wheels

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 14, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673 "2015-04-14T18:24:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673/21 "2015-04-14T23:53:32Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The goal is simply to get that ground-hugging look. And for somebody just starting to mess with their FWD car, it’s a zero cost mod.
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Other than probably getting 4 to 5k miles out of a set of tire that is. I wonder if they remove and reinstall the tire so the other side wears? Hopefully, they don’t drive these things on the freeways.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673/22 "2015-04-15T00:47:23Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> You saw some negative camber in very successful autocross cars of the 1970s- predominantly VW Beetles and Datsun 510s. But it was only a little and was due to the peculiarity of their suspension and weight distributions.
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> In general, you’re correct. Rears should have nearly zero camber under nearly all conditions, hard track racing included.
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> I guess it’s kinda like gangsta pants - “I look like a big stupid toddler with my pants falling down” translated to “look, my rear suspension is completely trashed.”

this is not true. Cars with independent rear suspension will usually have a degree or two of negative camber on the rear wheels; doing so improves grip around a turn. here are the alignment specs for a Mazda 3: [http://www.zoomsquared.com/technical-information/factory-alignment-specs](http://www.zoomsquared.com/technical-information/factory-alignment-specs)

cars/trucks with solid, live, or torsion beam rear axles have zero camber angle because they have no other option.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673/23 "2015-04-15T01:25:42Z")

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It’s not just used cars. The first year of the Infinity G37 Coupe, I saw one “modded” like that down in Dallas, TX. In fact it was the G37S, more bucks ~$50k trashed at both ends.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673/24 "2015-04-15T18:41:17Z")

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Penis tow hook. Thanks. I should have know it was something completely useless.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canted-in-rear-wheels/717673/25 "2015-04-15T20:50:00Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> this is not true. Cars with independent rear suspension will usually have a degree or two of negative camber on the rear wheels…

One or two degrees pos/neg is “nearly zero” in my book. I have several cars with IRS; all say zero to one degree negative. The most powerful recommends +1/2 for track conditions, in fact.

Certainly not 4-10 degrees, like we’re talking about in this thread.

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