# CanvasShoes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274 "2003-08-24T04:00:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/161 "2003-08-26T01:32:23Z")
In fact. Let us all get naked, it’s the only way to celebrate. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/162 "2003-08-26T01:52:31Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Siege \* > \*\* Now, if you’ll excuse me, I do believe it’s about time I did the Happy Naked Dance around the living room!_\* I’d pay to see **that**!;j **Ryle** , why don’t you mosey on down SDMB way? There’s a welcoming comittee waiting for you. That and about five or six thousand viewers…😉 ---
**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/163 "2003-08-26T02:07:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by omni-not \* > welcoming comittee waiting for you. That and about five or six thousand viewers…😉 \*\* and I’m one of them. ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/164 "2003-08-26T02:16:53Z")
Oh Ryle, I think I finally breathed for the first time today. Thank you for being okay (relatively speaking, of course) right now. _hugs_ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/165 "2003-08-26T02:18:48Z")
Good news! I mean about **Ryle** , not the naked dancing. Well, maybe the naked dancing is good news, too. Got a web cam? **Ryle** , post whenever you’re ready. No rush. Or just pop into a new thread even. The important thing is you made it through a very rough day. What an accomplishment! I mean it. You saved a life. Your own. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/166 "2003-08-26T02:50:01Z")
See? I told you there are good days. Today is a very good day since I logged in here to find Ryle has made an appearance. (Sorry **jarbaby** …can’t get naked…I’m in the middle of the library, and I don’t want people falling over with apoplectic shock/heart attacks at the sight of my wondrous bod being flaunted around the stacks) ---
**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/167 "2003-08-26T05:54:35Z")
This news has definitely made me feel better. I’m not demanding that **Ryle** make an appearance in thsi thread, but it’s good to know that he’s still with us. 🙂 ( **jarbabyj** : I _could_ getnaked, as I live alone and there’s no one around to see me. However, I don’t think that’s a sight you want to see…) F\_X ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/168 "2003-08-26T06:01:19Z")
Good News indeed!!! ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/169 "2003-08-26T06:03:43Z")
Wow! To have had happy nekkid dancin’ going on, in celebration of my having made it through another day … What a piece of support that would have been. When I was 18, my mother look her own life. I was stunned and numbed … and angry. Angry that she “beat me to it!” I was pissed. I looked at what it did to my dad and my brother … and, I guess me, and I was angry, because that meant I couldn’t go that route, even though I’d been looking it in the face for some months. But, that got me through those days, me feeling I couldn’t put my dad and brother through that kind of loss again. Don’t get me wrong, I loved my mother, deeply, but at that point in time, I guess we were both in such deep individual pits, we couldn’t see each other’s pains. (I was away at my first year in college.) Like thoughts expressed here, my mom wrote in her ‘notes’ that she was getting herself out of the way, since everyone seemed they’d be better off without her. Even in her death, she was still important to all of us in the family, and many others in her extended family beyond. Her memorial service filled the church. That was a Lot of people effected by her, in ways she never knew. I wish she could have known, but that “getting to see what your life has contributed” thing only lives in the movies, for the most part. For me, her death meant I couldn’t consider that route, at that time. Sometimes, that is all it takes, something, anything, to make you just mark the time and get through the clock-moments of really bad points. I’ve touched that point several times since, in the most recent, triggered, by my grief over another loss. The only reason I’m still around is that the notion of just stepping out of my car, since I was stopped in traffic, and over the bridge railing … was the thought of what that would do to the poor folks stuck in the traffic jam behind me, and that would develop. Pretty stupid, in a “life or death” moment, but it was enough to make me put off that decision until I could figure out a route that didn’t mess up anyone’s day. I then did some work with a man named “Master Shaw” … he’s based in the San Fran. area. That Qi Gong/ Chinese Energy Work, lifted my “energy flow” enough to get me back into my ‘real’ thinking and get me back functional, again. I’m not in a position to ‘recommend’ any particular route, except the “not today” route. I will say, before I could rid myself of those recurring thoughts, I had to set a rule, in my own mind, of “Since I am Not going to do that Right This moment, then I Stop that thought, and shift to another thought of what I AM going to do, right this moment.” no matter what that “am going to do” is, from go to the bathroom to read a book, from call for help, to take a walk. All of it, just re-training my mind to get out of the rut of those repeated “just end it” thoughts. But I can say, I’ve seen people do Qi Gong or meditate to raise their thinking and I’ve seen folks take anti-depressants or other meds. I’ve seen people rise up out of F.M. and re-discover themselves out of the fog. For the moment, just choose, Not Today. Choose it Today and Tomorrow. The oddest part of the story, **Ryle** I do odd and helpful work, as my profession, now. If I had to, I could get probably over 100 people to write, in the next week pointing out how my continued existence, after the days of my teens, has been a life-changing/life-supporting experience for them. That’s right \>\>my\<\< continued existence … Me, the piece of crap that was a total waste of oxygen at that point in my teens. And No One was dancin’ nekkid to celebrate my making it through each of those days … so, by comparison, even accounting for inflation in the several decades since I was 18 … good chance you’re on your way to making a difference in even larger ways. Karma or what-have-you, I never had 2000-3000 people looking at/listening to my thoughts … your start “out of the blocks” is Way ahead of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/170 "2003-08-26T06:34:40Z")
\*\*Wyatt, \*\*, that’s a fine post. It’s just a little past 1:30 in the morning here in Nashville. Reading those two all-important words from CJ took most of the kinks out of my body. I did a snoopy dance instead of a naked dance. I didn’t want to make anybody cry. Bless you, Ryle. You are a gift. I hope that you will come back and just be a part of us either in this thread or elsewhere. Whatever pace you choose is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/171 "2003-08-26T06:49:39Z")
Thanks, **Zoe** , not a story I tell much. I hoped it would read to others as fitting, as much as the thoughts behind it fit here in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/172 "2003-08-26T12:34:14Z")
That was one hell of a fine post, **Wyatt**. **Ryle** , may I suggest that you read that post. And then re-read it. And then read it again. You’re bound to draw some inspiration from it. And, you know, bottom line, we at SDMB are basically simple folk, easily satisfied with simple things like a ‘Hi!’, a ‘Me again’, a ‘Yo’, a ‘ssup?’ from (new-found) friends dropping in unexpectedly. Just thought I’d let you know…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/173 "2003-08-26T12:58:38Z")
damn all of you. I was sitting here naked for hours, celebrating, and everyone else wimped out. ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/174 "2003-08-26T13:42:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*damn all of you. I was sitting here naked for hours, celebrating, and everyone else wimped out. \*\* I just got naked and did a dance, but then my boss told me to put my clothes back on before I get fired. Ryle, you’ve got an amazing group of people pulling for you here. You’ve been on my mind non-stop for the past two days, and I know there are others who will say the same thing. Don’t be afraid to lean on everyone. As my best friend and I like to say after a difficult experience…it’s all good. Ava ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/175 "2003-08-26T13:55:11Z")
Damn fine post **Wyatt**. Been thinking about you **Ryle** and am moved by the concern and sentiments of all those here. You’re a blessed man. ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/176 "2003-08-26T14:11:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by omni-not \* > \*\*There’s a welcoming comittee waiting for you. That and about five or six thousand viewers…😉 \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chaoticdonkey \* > \*\*and I’m one of them. \*\* and me. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/177 "2003-08-26T14:48:42Z")
Me too. Ryle, I’m sending you hugs!! ---
**Author:** ![Bugnorton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bugnorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bugnorton)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/178 "2003-08-26T18:05:41Z")
what **Tir Tinuviel** said! ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/179 "2003-08-26T19:07:56Z")
Any word from Ryle today? Ryle, do you have a messenger program that you’d be willing to share with us? Hope you’re doing well, man. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274/180 "2003-08-26T19:20:10Z")
I hope you are doing well Ryle. Do your parents know how bad you are feeling right now? Please tell them so they can help you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canvasshoes/197274.md?page=10)