# Capitalism thread disappeared?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534>\
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**Created:** [January 3, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534 "2025-01-03T20:01:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/21 "2025-01-04T01:59:38Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> and never once mentioned that the movie was based on a book.

Which was based on a short story. Just sayin’…

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/22 "2025-01-04T03:48:46Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> So, you gonna eat the cornbread?

[“I thought you never missed, Bishop.”](https://youtu.be/3tBHiYqRNwE?si=5Pgwv7kpfo3dJf41&t=20s)

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> It makes me sad when people refer to concepts as coming from a movie/TV adaptation and not the original written source. The phrase comes from _It’s a Good Life_ by Jerome Bixby.

It may “make [you] sad” but that is one of the most famous episodes of the original _Twilight Zone_ and a cultural touchstone far more broadly referenced than the original short story. This is kind of like complaining that references to John Carpenter’s [_The Thing_](https://youtu.be/5ftmr17M-a4?si=ycM087GNDH9XA_5R) should really be directed to John W. Campbell’s novella _Who Goes there?_

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/23 "2025-01-04T14:42:16Z")

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Well, it is a great novella. But I take your point.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/24 "2025-01-04T14:52:16Z")

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When I first heard it used here, I thought it was a ref. to Field of Dreams, which also had a mystical cornfield.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/25 "2025-01-04T15:05:42Z")

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You forget the demographic here is far too old to make a pop culture reference that’s as recent as 1989.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/26 "2025-01-04T15:13:10Z")

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First time I heard/saw it, I too was thinking Field of Dreams.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/27 "2025-01-04T15:25:59Z")

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I never knew about the _Twilight Zone_ usage until I saw the movie in the 80s. I’d only read the Bixby story.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> You forget the demographic here is far too old to make a pop culture reference that’s as recent as 1989.

I’m too young to have seen the _Twilight Zone_. Should I start wandering on you geezers’ lawns? 😀

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/28 "2025-01-04T15:34:42Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I’m too young to have seen the _Twilight Zone_

Good God! What pre-industrial backwater did you grow up in that didn’t have Twilight Zone reruns aired multiple times on a daily basis?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/29 "2025-01-04T15:37:00Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I’m too young to have seen the _Twilight Zone_. Should I start wandering on you geezers’ lawns?

I think I’m younger than you, but I grew up on Twilight Zone and Star Trek reruns. Is this a weird Canadian thing? I know it isn’t a bagpipe thing.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/30 "2025-01-04T15:38:01Z")

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The reruns I remember are Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, and _I Love Lucy_. Don’t remember ever seeing _Twilight Zone_.

Pre-cable.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/31 "2025-01-04T15:41:52Z")

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How sad to miss out on such gems as Twilight Zone, Star Trek, Get Smart, Bewitched and even Hogan’s Heroes.

I’ll admit to not discovering The Dick Van Dyke Show until I was like 20, for some reason that one was not in heavy syndication even though crappy shows like Father Knows Best, My Favorite Martian and Leave it to Beaver were.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/32 "2025-01-04T15:43:39Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Get Smart, Bewitched and even Hogan’s Heroes

These I saw in their original runs (I remember when Max proposed to 99!). Don’t remember seeing reruns very much. (Get Smart was in reruns a few years after the original run, after school, which was fun.)

Don’t remember Start Trek in the original run, and then didn’t see reruns until university days.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/33 "2025-01-04T16:09:59Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Good God! What pre-industrial backwater did you grow up in that didn’t have Twilight Zone reruns aired multiple times on a daily basis?

Pre-cable. We watched what we caught from the sky. Northerners, surviving on natural means.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/34 "2025-01-04T16:48:47Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Pre-cable. We watched what we caught from the sky.

It was absolutely ubiquitous on U.S. TV pre-cable as Elmer\_J.Fudd alludes. In fact annual Twilight Zone marathons seem to have started as early as the 1970’s by stations holding syndication rights from CBS (Syfy channel still does it every New Year these days). Apparently they were always solid ratings performers. For Americans of a certain age growing up in the 1970’s and '80’s the series was inescapable, considerably more so than similar anthology shows like Outer Limits or TZ’s Rod Serling’s successor show Night Gallery.

Apparently Canadian stations just didn’t buy the rights back then and then flog the show ad nauseam like in the states. Seems in Canada Citytv currently holds the broadcast rights.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/35 "2025-01-04T16:54:27Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> The reruns I remember are Gene Autry, _ **Roy Rogers** _, and _I Love Lucy_.

“I really like those sequined shirts.”

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/36 "2025-01-04T16:55:43Z")

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Strictly speaking, nothing is ever entirely deleted. Even when something is deleted, it’s still in the database somewhere, and mods can still see it (though even we need to jump through a few extra hoops). This seems to be the norm for Internet sites these days. I think it’s for legal reasons: If law enforcement subpoenas all of the posts by some troublemaker, the sites want to be able to comply.

That said, “nobody but mods can see something, and mods only by jumping through extra hoops” is pretty darned close to “deleted”.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/37 "2025-01-04T17:29:06Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> It makes me sad when people refer to concepts as coming from a movie/TV adaptation and not the original written source.

It’s good that you said that Darren\_Garrison. Real good.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/38 "2025-01-04T18:18:21Z")

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It makes it a good day.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/39 "2025-01-04T18:27:32Z")

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(Need to be careful, since I’m similar to a three-headed gopher)

🥫🥫 Tell the mods I brought the tomato soup because I heard they liked it.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/capitalism-thread-disappeared/1012534/40 "2025-01-04T18:28:12Z")

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Oh, good, the curtains are on fire.

I read the story first, saw the _Simpsons_ episode later (and was disappointed when I learned it was a parody of a _Twilight Zone_ episode and not the story directly) and saw the _Twilight Zone_ episode for the first time decades after either.

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