# Caprica returns tonight, folks

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 5, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131 "2010-10-05T15:58:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/21 "2010-10-07T14:45:03Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I don’t think so. She might prefer it to look like that, but I think she just let that high priest guy think he was going to kill Clarice then arranged his death. Which begs another question; why does everything have to be so Catholic? Colonial (or at least Caprican) polytheism has a Catholic flavour (right down to confessions), now this monotheistic _church_ (they actually used that word) has it’s own Vatican-meets-Potala Palace mountain fortress, a conclave, and a Holy [del]Father[/del] Mother in charge of it all. Then again it’s kinda hard to imagine how to have a Church-Militant that doesn’t look like the RCC. Still it does make me wonder what top al Qaeda meetings look like.

Now that I’m thinking back - she told the priest to leave the VR goggles, didn’t she? So maybe she tried them out and decided to back Clarice instead.

> [@Jormungandr](#):
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> > [@Oakminster](#):
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> > Wait…what? I thought the only skinjobs were the ones we saw in BSG, + the boxed “Daniel” who may or may not be Mr. Greystone…
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> Battlestar Wiki has the speculation that the first hybrid might have been him.

The hybrid at the end of “Razor”? That’s a damn interesting notion.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/22 "2010-10-22T17:25:03Z")

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So is anyone still watching? I thought the first episode was pretty good, the second was a total snoozefest, and this week’s was OK. Still orders of magnitude less entertaining than BSG.

[spoiler]And now we find that Zoe had an angel, who just happened to suggest creating virtual Zoe. Was the angel seen in the first half of the season, or did that appear for the first time last night? I’ve got to wonder if anyone watches this show who didn’t also watch BSG.

Plus, it turns out that God (though he doesn’t like being called that) is just a genocidal asshole. He pushes each society to create its own self-aware humanity-craving Cylons, just so they can wipe themselves out? Nice.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/23 "2010-10-22T18:18:39Z")

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Only made it through about 20 minutes of episode 2 before I stopped paying any attention. The next is sitting in my Hulu queue but I have no real urge to get to it.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/24 "2010-10-22T19:42:07Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> So is anyone still watching? I thought the first episode was pretty good, the second was a total snoozefest, and this week’s was OK. Still orders of magnitude less entertaining than BSG.
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> [spoiler]And now we find that Zoe had an angel, who just happened to suggest creating virtual Zoe. Was the angel seen in the first half of the season, or did that appear for the first time last night? I’ve got to wonder if anyone watches this show who didn’t also watch BSG.
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> Plus, it turns out that God (though he doesn’t like being called that) is just a genocidal asshole. He pushes each society to create its own self-aware humanity-craving Cylons, just so they can wipe themselves out? Nice.[/spoiler]

Agreed.

No angel in season 1.0.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/25 "2010-10-22T20:23:02Z")

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Is that Head Six, then? Perhaps?

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/26 "2010-10-22T20:27:27Z")

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I was just assuming it was different entity of the same type as Head Six & Head Baltar.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/27 "2010-10-22T20:55:29Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is that Head Six, then? Perhaps?

Why Six specifically? We know from the end of BSG that “angels” can appear in about any form.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/28 "2010-10-22T21:02:26Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Why Six specifically? We know from the end of BSG that “angels” can appear in about any form.

True, and even if the same 2 beings showed up in Caprica it would make zero sense for them to uses Six’s & Baltar’s forms. Or course there wasn’t any in-universe reason for them uses those forms while strolling though Manhatten 150,000 yrs after Six & Balter died either.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/29 "2010-10-24T02:55:46Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Why Six specifically? We know from the end of BSG that “angels” can appear in about any form.

Uh, I assume Head Six can appear however it appears. My bad, if not, though.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/30 "2010-10-24T03:18:58Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Or course there wasn’t any in-universe reason for them uses those forms while strolling though Manhatten 150,000 yrs after Six & Balter died either.

What other forms should they use when reading about Hera’s corpse being unearthed? Boxy and Hotdog? 😃

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/31 "2010-10-25T15:11:54Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> What other forms should they use when reading about Hera’s corpse being unearthed? Boxy and Hotdog? 😃

They were invisible anyway. At least I’m assuming I’d notice if Tricia Helfer rested her hands on my shoulders and started reading the magazine I was holding. I’d probably even offer to buy it for her.

Oh, and I stand by my previous offer to help with the RDM molten-DVD-nasal-irrigation if it turns out that Bill Adama’s sister is the Cylon who decides to wage war on humanity.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/32 "2010-10-25T17:09:32Z")

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Caprica still hasn’t been renewed for a 2nd season and SyFy is greenlight [another](http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=71043) BSG prequel. This time set late in the First Cylon War with Ensign William Adama and a Galactica that was still new & shiny & state of the art.

I don’t think this looks good for Caprica. One it’s main selling points was that by being set on a planet in a city that looks like Vancouver it’d be cheaper to produce that BSG; now they’re going back to more or less the same concept (except with even more action & space battles)? It’s bad enough that Caprica got moved to Tuesdays were it has to compete with network TV programs.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/33 "2010-10-25T19:09:49Z")

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I liked the first episode of the new batch, thought the second was ok…but last week’s episode lost me about 20 minutes in. Somewhere after the shotgun to the chest at pointblank range and before the couple-dozen-men-armed-with-clubs beatdown of the dark haired girl’s avatar.

Maybe Blood & Chrome will be better…

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/34 "2010-10-28T04:44:03Z")

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Frakking hell.

No renewal, five or six remaining episodes shit-canned until 2011.

Oh, yeah, SyFy: a six month hiatus in the middle of a first season is an **excellent** strategy.

Just when it was getting really good.

And two frakking hours of wrestling on Friday night?!?!?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/35 "2010-10-28T15:59:33Z")

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Six month hiatus AND a move to the middle of week.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/36 "2010-10-28T17:30:46Z")

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Huh. I’ve been DVRing this. Yeah, it’s not great, but it’s OK. Entertaining enough, I guess. Sadly, it’s no BSG - it’s not compelling enough to wait for, as SyFy is finding out. Their 6 month gambit has got to stop.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/37 "2010-10-29T02:52:47Z")

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That’s a shame - I’ve mostly enjoyed Caprica from the start but the cards were always stacked against it. Even though Caprica was set in a science fiction universe, it really wasn’t a science fiction show. With only limited action it couldn’t keep the attention of most science fiction fans, and being on SyFy with the BSG label it couldn’t really attract the fan base that would have embraced it.

Caprica wasn’t perfect, and parts of it really turned me off. I thought the Guatrau was silly, and Sister Clarice was contrived (this is nothing against Polly Walker whom I know is a great actress thanks to Rome).

That being said, I found the culture itself to be believable, and relevant to our culture. It’s a deep show and I’ve found myself really contemplating some of the issues it raises while waiting for the next episode. I’m sad to see it end.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/38 "2010-10-29T03:18:29Z")

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I think something like Caprica would’ve done much better as a miniseries instead. If Caprica doesn’t get renewed (something which seems likely) I hope it does get some kind of miniseries/TV-move/DVD-movie wrapping up it’s loose threads and taking us to the start of the 1st Cylon War.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/39 "2010-10-29T14:41:26Z")

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It’s official: [Caprica has been cancelled](http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/10/27/breaking-syfy-cancels-caprica/).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caprica-returns-tonight-folks/556131/40 "2010-10-29T16:06:05Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> It’s official: [Caprica has been cancelled](http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/10/27/breaking-syfy-cancels-caprica/).

Uh, we know.

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