# Captain America 2 - Open Spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 3, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289 "2014-04-03T21:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/261 "2014-04-15T16:09:31Z")

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> It was “American Werewolf in London” for me…
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> \<sighs, and stares wistfully out of the window\>

Damn - now I recognize her!

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/262 "2014-04-15T16:14:23Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> He was posting across the Chris Evans nexus that connects the two universes.

Thank You.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/263 "2014-04-15T16:58:38Z")

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> [@Dr\_Doom](#):
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> Well, almost completely. I was really hoping for a new Guardians of the Galaxy trailer. Ah well.

That actually perplexed me. Marvel has been doing so well in other areas, cross-promoting their movies. Yet the Marvel trailers shown before the latest Marvel movie are always the same trailers that’ve been available online and preceeding other movies for months.

Their target audience is_in that theatre_! It is the optimum time to convince those people they need to see the next Marvel movie, too. Why wouldn’t Marvel make a new trailer specifically to go with the latest release? They’re already making a half-dozen or more targeted trailers; one more would be cake.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/264 "2014-04-15T17:09:16Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Their target audience is_in that theatre_! It is the optimum time to convince those people they need to see the next Marvel movie, too. Why wouldn’t Marvel make a new trailer specifically to go with the latest release? They’re already making a half-dozen or more targeted trailers; one more would be cake.

True, but how many people who go to see WS and enjoy it are gonna give Guardians a miss? It’s kind of a shoe-in candidate. Hell, they might not even need to make any trailers for _Avengers 2._ 😃

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**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/265 "2014-04-15T17:12:58Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Wait, what does the Pentagon care about a fictional secret agency deciding to launch a nuke? I know they don’t like the military portrayed in a negative light or falsely in movies, but SHIELD doesn’t exist

As a former employee, I can tell you that the DoD isn’t down with films that don’t contain an abundance of ass-kissing falsehoods. That’s why you won’t see a realistic Delta Force or Navy SEAL film anytime soon.

But it **is** why you’ll see Michael Bay’s tired flag-waving bullshit again soon at a theater near you….

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/266 "2014-04-15T17:33:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> He was posting across the Chris Evans nexus that connects the two universes.

> [@Dr\_Doom](#):
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> Thank You.

Chris Evans cleansed himself by appearing in _The Losers_, based on a Vertigo comic series published by the Distinguished Competition. It let him cross the void safely.

🆒

(do I get points for effort?)

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/267 "2014-04-15T17:34:42Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> As a former employee, I can tell you that the DoD isn’t down with films that don’t contain an abundance of ass-kissing falsehoods. That’s why you won’t see a realistic Delta Force or Navy SEAL film anytime soon.
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> But it **is** why you’ll see Michael Bay’s tired flag-waving bullshit again soon at a theater near you….

:rolleyes:

Yeah right…that would the Michael Bay that likes to show the US government as incompetent and arrogant goons that exist mostly as foils for the good guys in his Transformers movies?  
And you don’t consider Zero Dark Thirty a realistic portrayal of the SEALs?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/268 "2014-04-15T17:45:51Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Chris Evans cleansed himself by appearing in _The Losers_, based on a Vertigo comic series published by the Distinguished Competition. It let him cross the void safely.

And he was in _Scott Pilgrim vs the World_ which connects him to the indie comic universe.

Truly it is said, Chris Evans is The One.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/269 "2014-04-15T17:45:53Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s funny that people thought it was so strange seeing Jenny Agutter having a fight scene at the age of 61. But nobody questions Samuel L. Jackson doing fight scenes at 65 or Robert Redford doing them at 77.

What fight scenes were Redford and Jackson in?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/270 "2014-04-15T17:50:48Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> What fight scenes were Redford and Jackson in?

Redford wasn’t in any unless you count shooting his maid. Jackson did do some physical stuff during the assault on the helicarrier in Avengers.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/271 "2014-04-15T17:52:24Z")

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Just checking IMDB. _Captain America 2_ is the tenth movie Evans has made that’s based on a comic book.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/272 "2014-04-15T18:02:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Just checking IMDB. _Captain America 2_ is the tenth movie Evans has made that’s based on a comic book.

I count nine, not including the Thor cameo.

Fantastic Four  
TMNT  
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer  
Push  
The Losers  
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World  
Captain America: The First Avenger  
The Avengers  
Captain America: The Winter Soldier

What did I miss, or were you counting the cameo?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/273 "2014-04-15T18:07:34Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Redford wasn’t in any unless you count shooting his maid. Jackson did do some physical stuff during the assault on the helicarrier in Avengers.

He also grappled with the fake cop hanging onto the window of his SUV in this latest movie.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/274 "2014-04-15T22:11:43Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> He also grappled with the fake cop hanging onto the window of his SUV in this latest movie.

True. I’d forgotten about him yanking the fake cop through the window.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/275 "2014-04-15T22:46:41Z")

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How do you know he was fake? For all we know (and the movie shows) NYPD is solidly infested by HYDRA. It would explain a lot.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/276 "2014-04-15T22:54:41Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I count nine, not including the Thor cameo.
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> Fantastic Four  
> TMNT  
> Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer  
> Push  
> The Losers  
> Scott Pilgrim vs. The World  
> Captain America: The First Avenger  
> The Avengers  
> Captain America: The Winter Soldier
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> What did I miss, or were you counting the cameo?

_Snowpiercer_ was also based on a graphic novel.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/277 "2014-04-15T23:43:20Z")

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I had forgotten the Thor cameo. If you count that, it’s actually eleven.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/278 "2014-04-15T23:55:20Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> How do you know he was fake? For all we know (and the movie shows) NYPD is solidly infested by HYDRA. It would explain a lot.

Fury’s SUV’s computer said no police cars were in the area. And it was Washington, D.C., not NYC, I thought.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/279 "2014-04-15T23:55:46Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> How do you know he was fake? For all we know (and the movie shows) NYPD is solidly infested by HYDRA. It would explain a lot.

That may be true…but they were in DC. 🙂  
Right… they were in DC?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/280 "2014-04-16T01:24:12Z")

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Funny, it looked awfully familiar…

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