# Captain America 2 - Open Spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 3, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289 "2014-04-03T21:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/321 "2014-04-17T20:09:10Z")

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True. The office building could carry that title, but the staff working there would not refer to themselves as such.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/322 "2014-04-17T22:59:04Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> 200,000, I believe.

It’s 200,000 feet of tape _banks_. When he says it, he turns on the rest of the lights in the facility, and you can see reel-to-reel tape machines running off into the vanishing point. It’s basically the size of the warehouse from the end of Raiders, except everything in it is Zola.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/323 "2014-04-17T23:32:51Z")

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So he isn’t in the flash drive on my desk that is giving me problems?

Good to know.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/324 "2014-04-18T02:34:47Z")

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You’ll probably still want to get that iPhone app that detects and tracks ballistic missile launches, **silenus**. Just in case.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/325 "2014-04-18T04:27:43Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> True. The office building could carry that title, but the staff working there would not refer to themselves as such.

I don’t get the distinction. Staff of each might just as easily say:

“I work for SHIELD.”  
“I work for SHAPE.”  
“I work for SACEUR.”

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/326 "2014-04-18T10:00:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I don’t get the distinction. Staff of each might just as easily say:
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> “I work for SHIELD.”  
> “I work for SHAPE.”  
> “I work for SACEUR.”

Don’t mind me. Just overthinking again.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/327 "2014-04-18T10:11:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I don’t get the distinction. Staff of each might just as easily say:
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> “I work for SHIELD.”  
> “I work for SHAPE.”  
> “I work for SACEUR.”

“I work for the White House.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/328 "2014-04-18T15:23:51Z")

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“Piss on you! I’m working for Mel Brooks!”

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/329 "2014-04-20T03:47:52Z")

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Well, I just saw the movie on Friday, and it blew me away. After wading through seven pages of thread that I’ve been avoiding in order to not get spoiled, one aspect I did not notice mention of was Nick’s gambit with his eyepatch at the end. Does his other eye have a different retina scan from his usually-revealed one because of whatever damage was done to it? Or did he replace his lost eye with a transplant, like Tom Cruise in Minority Report? And when he burned his eyepatch, does that mean that he can see well with both eyes after all, and the eyepatch was never anything but a long-game disguise? Or is his lack of an eyepatch the disguise, and he genuinely has only one good eye?

For us comic book geeks in the audience, can we expect that Baron Strucker’s European base is Wundagore Mountain? Wouldn’t it be ultra-cool if the backstory can involve the Whizzer and Miss America, another thread connecting the Marvel Universe of WWII with the present time?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/330 "2014-04-20T05:06:53Z")

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Data point that may interest only me–I caught the 2005 _Fantastic Four_ on cable recently, and noticed Chris Evans played Johnny Storm in it.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/331 "2014-04-20T13:22:02Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Well, I just saw the movie on Friday, and it blew me away. After wading through seven pages of thread that I’ve been avoiding in order to not get spoiled, one aspect I did not notice mention of was Nick’s gambit with his eyepatch at the end. Does his other eye have a different retina scan from his usually-revealed one because of whatever damage was done to it? Or did he replace his lost eye with a transplant, like Tom Cruise in Minority Report? And when he burned his eyepatch, does that mean that he can see well with both eyes after all, and the eyepatch was never anything but a long-game disguise? Or is his lack of an eyepatch the disguise, and he genuinely has only one good eye?
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> For us comic book geeks in the audience, can we expect that Baron Strucker’s European base is Wundagore Mountain? Wouldn’t it be ultra-cool if the backstory can involve the Whizzer and Miss America, another thread connecting the Marvel Universe of WWII with the present time?

My take? Everyone has a unique retinal pattern in each eye, just as your two thumbprints are unique. Fury’s eye injury did not damage his retina but the extreme damage to the cornea and lens gives him (at best) light and shadow vision in that eye. The patch makes that less annoying and less shocking to people he meets.

They purged the retinal record of Fury’s good eye, but since he had not used the other eye for a scan in decades they overlooked that one, and he was able to access the system with his alternate ID.

The eye patch is pretty distinctive, and so he is now using wrap-around shades to not freak people out.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/332 "2014-04-20T13:27:48Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Well, I just saw the movie on Friday, and it blew me away. After wading through seven pages of thread that I’ve been avoiding in order to not get spoiled, one aspect I did not notice mention of was Nick’s gambit with his eyepatch at the end. Does his other eye have a different retina scan from his usually-revealed one because of whatever damage was done to it?

That was my assumption. I think burning the eyepatch was mostly symbolic - I’m pretty sure he’s blind in that eye.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/333 "2014-04-20T15:00:03Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Data point that may interest only me–I caught the 2005 _Fantastic Four_ on cable recently, and noticed Chris Evans played Johnny Storm in it.

I watched FF, then Captain America twice, then went back and watched FF a second time before I recognized him. To be fair, he bulked up a lot to play Cap…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/334 "2014-04-21T19:47:38Z")

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Scarlett J. on the cover of\* Vanity Fair\*. Mwrowr: [http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly\_fs/1.1749815!/img/httpImage/image.jpg\_gen/derivatives/article\_1200/johansson9f-1-web.jpg](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1749815!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/johansson9f-1-web.jpg)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/335 "2014-04-21T20:01:23Z")

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Can somebody tell me the name of that magazine? It’s nowhere on the cover.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/336 "2014-04-21T22:01:15Z")

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The big red letters weren’t enough to get you to lift your eyeballs, were they?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/337 "2014-04-21T22:02:16Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Scarlett J. on the cover of\* Vanity Fair\*. Mwrowr: [http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly\_fs/1.1749815!/img/httpImage/image.jpg\_gen/derivatives/article\_1200/johansson9f-1-web.jpg](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1749815!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/johansson9f-1-web.jpg)

(sigh)

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/338 "2014-04-22T06:45:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Scarlett J. on the cover of\* Vanity Fair\*.

Scarlett Johansson is a beautiful and sexy woman while walking and talking and in candid.  
Seriously though, in my very strong opinion, she looks like a complete jackass in every single one of her posed “Sexy” photoshoots. She looks like an inept imitation of sexy. That cartoonish “blowjob lips” thing that she always does is a ridiculous “trying too hard” schtick. And her eyes always look so vapid- compare to when she’s interviewed or while she acting: Her eyes are fantastic, deep, communicative. In her “Sexy” photoshoots her eyes are so blank and dim.  
She doesn’t look like a sexy woman, she looks like a sex doll.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/339 "2014-04-22T08:37:35Z")

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Ok, so who exactly knows that Fury is still alive…

1. Hill
2. Black Widow
3. Captain (retd) Steve Rogers
4. The Falcon

Coulson and the other guy in AOS

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2-open-spoilers/685289/340 "2014-04-22T09:15:34Z")

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That doctor who was treating him in the Dam base…

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