# Captain America 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 24, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131 "2013-10-24T17:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/1 "2013-10-24T17:20:57Z")

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The trailer was just released and it looks pretty wild.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NLWsK1ZFunA/hqdefault.jpg "Captain America The Winter Soldier trailer UK -- Official Marvel | HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWsK1ZFunA)

I am an unapologetic fanboy nerd lover of the first one, so my feelings on this trailer are fair and unbiased.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/2 "2013-10-24T17:24:31Z")

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YES. I like that we got some Falcon action in the trailer… wish his suit had more color.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/3 "2013-10-24T17:26:26Z")

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Is there a particular reason your link jumps 35 seconds into the video?

The elevator scene was great.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/4 "2013-10-24T17:46:40Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Is there a particular reason your link jumps 35 seconds into the video?

I didn’t realize that. I was watching it embedded originally and it froze up on that page so I opened it on Youtube’s site to watch it, so it’s from that.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/5 "2013-10-24T17:49:48Z")

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I’m pretty interested in this… Captain America being such a traditionally gung ho flag-waving hero, kind of by definition, stuck in a more complex world where it’s not clear who the good guys are, has all sorts of potential for actual interesting plot development. Plus ass-kicking.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/6 "2013-10-24T18:42:26Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I didn’t realize that. I was watching it embedded originally and it froze up on that page so I opened it on Youtube’s site to watch it, so it’s from that.

Oh and my rewind button doesn’t work, so I had to flip it over and fast forward.

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> I’m pretty interested in this… Captain America being such a traditionally gung ho flag-waving hero, kind of by definition, stuck in a more complex world where it’s not clear who the good guys are, has all sorts of potential for actual interesting plot development. Plus ass-kicking.

I like that idea too. I read it described as a political thriller and I think the idea of the 40s-era square optimism of Cap versus the modern age sneaky bastard cynicism was plenty of potential for good storytelling.

My only complaint on seeing it, and this is minor, is that Winter Soldier looks kind of stiff. I imagine the mask and costume are hard to work with, but I hope he looks a little smoother in the final product.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/7 "2013-10-24T19:06:59Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> My only complaint on seeing it, and this is minor, is that Winter Soldier looks kind of stiff. I imagine the mask and costume are hard to work with, but I hope he looks a little smoother in the final product.

Hey, it’s Captain America versus Batman Begins!

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/8 "2013-10-24T19:40:02Z")

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Don’tletitsuckdon’tletitsuckdon’tletitsuck…

I’m trying not to get too invested because it might suck. It doesn’t HAVE to suck, though. (I liked the first movie quite a bit but feel they dropped the ball in the third act and chickened out on going full-vintage with it.)

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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/9 "2013-10-24T20:24:05Z")

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My only question is…why April, for crying out loud?

May is pretty much the kickoff of the summer movie season, and the first weekend in May is usually the opening slot for whatever new Marvel movie is out that year. (The first Cap got a July release, but that was probably because Thor claimed the May release, and July was within the summer movie season, anyway.)

Why such an odd release date for a tentpole movie that’s part of a phenomenally successful movie series?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/10 "2013-10-24T20:34:59Z")

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> [@Hermione](#):
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> May is pretty much the kickoff of the summer movie season, and the first weekend in May is usually the opening slot for whatever new Marvel movie is out that year.

May of 2014 is _Amazing Spider-Man 2_ and _X-Men: Days Of Future Past_. Marvel’s gotta beat 'em to the punch.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/11 "2013-10-24T20:38:48Z")

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I thought at one point this was supposed to come out this fall or be a Christmas movie.

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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/12 "2013-10-24T20:41:23Z")

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I just don’t want this release date to harm the movie. I love the movieverse Captain America.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/13 "2013-10-24T20:46:10Z")

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I really enjoyed the first one, but what I think I liked most about it, and what made it stand out was the 1940s setting. While this looks good, it doesn’t really look all that different than any other recent action movie; that could have easily been the trailer for _GI Joe_.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/14 "2013-10-24T20:46:13Z")

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Without the timelock -

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NLWsK1ZFunA/hqdefault.jpg "Captain America The Winter Soldier trailer UK -- Official Marvel | HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWsK1ZFunA)

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/15 "2013-10-24T20:47:03Z")

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Looks awesome. I wish it were out today.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/16 "2013-10-24T20:56:19Z")

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IO9 was pretty quick to break down the trailer:

> **[Everything You May Have Missed in the Captain America 2 Trailer!](https://gizmodo.com/everything-you-may-have-missed-in-the-captain-america-2-1451669049)**
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> The first trailer for Captain America: The Winter Soldier dropped earlier today, and it was a concentrated blast of awesome. Including massive destruction, heartbreaking injuries, and some clues as to the nature of the conspiracy that Cap faces. Our...

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/17 "2013-10-24T21:33:20Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I thought at one point this was supposed to come out this fall or be a Christmas movie.

For what it’s worth _Thor: The Dark World_ was apparently pushed back to coming out this fall.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/18 "2013-10-24T21:53:25Z")

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The Hellcarrier goes down _again?_ That thing’s about as durable as a Yugo.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/19 "2013-10-24T22:12:26Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> The Hellcarrier goes down _again?_ That thing’s about as durable as a Yugo.

I think the entire purpose of a Helecarrier is to show how badass the enemy is because he can bring it down. It looks like evil Robert Redford is massing a fleet of them, so if one or two go down, that’s just how you play ball in Washington, right?

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-2/672131/20 "2013-10-24T22:29:13Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I think the entire purpose of a Helecarrier is to show how badass the enemy is because he can bring it down. It looks like evil Robert Redford is massing a fleet of them, so if one or two go down, that’s just how you play ball in Washington, right?

I had no idea Redford was in this/doing superhero stuff. Interesting.

Overall, that was pretty cool trailer-wise. I’m interested.

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