# Captain America: Civil War Hypothetical (Open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 21, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147 "2018-01-21T21:55:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/41 "2018-01-24T19:10:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > We can call this a war for dramatic purposes but it really wasn’t one. Stark wasn’t taking Parker into an actual combat zone. He wasn’t asking Parker to break any laws or go to a crime scene. From a legal standpoint, all Stark did was ask Parker to go to the airport with him to meet some people he knew and ask them to comply with the law. Actually, Stark brought Parker across international borders without a passport or consent by his legal guardian, engaged him in an attempt to arrest a “war criminal” and a cybernetically-enhanced Hydra superassassin, and participated in vandalism and destruction of a public airport. Short of handing him a beer and a joint and leaving a couple of prostitutes in his room to “give him a massage”, Stark basically checked the “corruption of a minor” checklist. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Really, somewhere between very few and none of the people with superpowers use them responsibly. The pro-registration type of people in these worlds have a very valid point. Yeah, that’s certainly true, and to a large extent you just have to suspend disbelief when watching these movies. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t fun to discuss how Professor X is actually creating a death force of teenagers with dangerously unstable powers led by a guy whose primary attributes are constantly smoking cigars and going on an animalistic rampage, killing everyone in sight with giant concealed claws. And that doesn’t even get into the whole ‘Dark Phoenix’ issue. I had a point when I began this, but it has since left the planet and gone to fight on the other side of the galaxy for the entertainment of immortal beings of immense power and knowledge who have nothing better to do than oversee gladiator tournaments. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/42 "2018-01-24T19:24:50Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > It was practically a police car ride-along! > > I do agree that “war crimes” is overblown for a dozen brawling people, superpowers or not. The last time they brawled, they blew up a building. Prior to that, they dropped a city out of the sky. Oddly enough, no one ever seems to bring up the Hulk vs Iron Man brawl that destroyed half of downtown Johannesburg. Isn’t violating the Sokovia Accords technically considered a “war crime”? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/43 "2018-01-24T20:29:45Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Oddly enough, no one ever seems to bring up the Hulk vs Iron Man brawl that destroyed half of downtown Johannesburg. It did happen just a couple days before Stark’s killbot decided to drop Sokovia on the world. So it’s not surprising it got pushed below the fold. And Hulk, who was really responsible for most of the damage, went M.I.A. and ended up across the galaxy, so that particular problem took care of itself, or at least became someone else’s issue to deal with. “Who the hell are you guys?” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/44 "2018-01-24T21:37:44Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I had a point when I began this, but it has since left the planet and gone to fight on the other side of the galaxy for the entertainment of immortal beings of immense power and knowledge who have nothing better to do than oversee gladiator tournaments. > > Stranger And honestly, who hasn’t done that? ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/45 "2018-01-25T06:31:25Z")
these threads are almost as good a reading the comics themselves ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/46 "2018-01-25T08:15:18Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > they’re made to make cool visuals on a big screen, and that’s about it. Stupid has never looked cool. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/47 "2018-01-25T15:00:44Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Stupid has never looked cool. Not sure what planet you’re posting from, but I’m on Earth. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/48 "2018-01-25T15:10:54Z")
Lots of good arguments here, but I think the universe of comics just considers superheroes to not follow the usual rules of child vs. adult. Spiderman actually addresses this issue frequently. Spiderman is an experienced superhero who had better than average judgment even when he started out. He acts like an adult, constantly second guessing and analyzing his own actions. When he encounters other wannabe superheroes, he discourages them if he feels they are reckless and not ready. Even superheroes much older than him, he will get into scuffles with if he doesn’t like their tactics. His first battle with Wolverine is a classic, and Wolverine is one of the most mature superheroes in the Marvel universe, although he’s also got serious mental issues. So the movie is set in a universe where even though Peter Parker is young, he’s proven he can handle the burden. And if there’s one thing superhero comics and TV shows will tell you, it’s that you can’t stop young superheroes from superheroing. This would be true in real life as well. If you can save people, and you’re 10 years old, you’re going to try to save people. Stark just figured that a) Peter had proven his trustworthiness, although Stark still felt he needed watching and guidance, and b) the mission was very limited, and while dangerous, the chance of death or serious injury was tiny. This proved to be erroneus, although Peter wasn’t the victim in that fight. Tony’s best friend was. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/49 "2018-01-25T15:11:23Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > It did happen just a couple days before Stark’s killbot decided to drop Sokovia on the world. So it’s not surprising it got pushed below the fold. And Hulk, who was really responsible for most of the damage, went M.I.A. and ended up across the galaxy, so that particular problem took care of itself, or at least became someone else’s issue to deal with. > > “Who the hell are you guys?” > > Stranger Was he really responsible? he was mind fucked by Scarlet Witch, kinda hard to blame him. Yeah, the Hulk is dangerous but if someone hacked one of Starks suits and went to town on a city with it most if not all of the blame would go to the hacker. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/50 "2018-01-25T16:59:26Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Was he really responsible? he was mind fucked by Scarlet Witch, kinda hard to blame him. Yeah, the Hulk is dangerous but if someone hacked one of Starks suits and went to town on a city with it most if not all of the blame would go to the hacker. Sure, blame the hacker, but also blame the idiot that left a hackable superweapon laying around. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/51 "2018-01-25T17:36:10Z")
In regards to the Hulk, he didn’t make the hackable superweapon and not having Hulk in the Avengers doesn’t make anyone safer. Other methods of stopping the Hulk have been tried and they always fail. Better to have him around other superheroes where they can dogpile him when he gets out of control then to have him roaming the countryside like he did getting into trouble like he did for the first 30 years of his comic run. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/52 "2018-01-25T18:20:12Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > In regards to the Hulk, he didn’t make the hackable superweapon and not having Hulk in the Avengers doesn’t make anyone safer. Other methods of stopping the Hulk have been tried and they always fail. Better to have him around other superheroes where they can dogpile him when he gets out of control then to have him roaming the countryside like he did getting into trouble like he did for the first 30 years of his comic run. He ended up having the right idea. Head out to the other side of the galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-hypothetical-open-spoilers/807147/53 "2018-01-25T18:21:11Z")
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