# Captain America: Civil War - Seen it! \[spoilers ahoy\]

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**Created:** [April 28, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-seen-it-spoilers-ahoy/753317 "2016-04-28T08:07:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-seen-it-spoilers-ahoy/753317/402 "2016-06-08T19:53:39Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> T’Challa partakes of something called “the Heart-Shaped Herb” which enhances his strength, agility, and senses. The comics are a little vague about how much. In most of the comics I have read, he seemed to be “peak human” or just slightly above. Back in the 1970s, he usually teamed up with Captain America or Daredevil, and seemed to be on about the same level as them.

Nitpick: Daredevil doesn’t have any sort of enhanced strength. Captain America is much stronger than Daredevil in the comics and totally outclasses him in the MCU.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-seen-it-spoilers-ahoy/753317/403 "2016-06-09T07:56:00Z")

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In the comics in the '70s, though, Cap was no stronger than an Olympic athlete. So that’s pretty comparable to Daredevil.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-america-civil-war-seen-it-spoilers-ahoy/753317/404 "2016-06-09T10:32:30Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> In the comics in the '70s, though, Cap was no stronger than an Olympic athlete. So that’s pretty comparable to Daredevil.

They said he was peak human perfection, not Olympic athlete. But they were a bit soft on that even back then. I recall an Avengers issue where Cap was curling with 500lbs on the bar. They may have just been totally ignorant of how much weight an actual human being can curl, but I believe the world record for curling is 320lbs so that’s beyond Olympic athlete level and into mild superstrength. And at any rate, Daredevil was NOT at peak human, just a guy with good reflexes and ninja training.

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