# Captain Ed:  Racist scumbag

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 12, 2000, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760 "2000-01-12T22:11:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/101 "2000-01-14T23:57:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Gigoloman:  
> Im just saying dont turn
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> The prosecution rests
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> into the PERSECUTION rests.  
> Dont attack a persons religion unless we are in a religious debate thread. Set some boundaries as to whats off limits, otherwise we will have many more people feeling “attacked” and all that. It create un needed problems.

And exactly where did I attack the religion, G? All I did was point out the inconsistencies in the statements.

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**Author:** ![Gigoloman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@Gigoloman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gigoloman)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/102 "2000-01-15T00:00:00Z")

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Drop it Monty. Long dead issue.

-G

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/103 "2000-01-15T03:54:00Z")

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Bricker  
Member posted 01-12-2000 04:49 PM

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> But as to Capt. Ed, I can assure you that he lives where he says he does, and that he’s either a retired navy officer, in his late sixties, or he deserves an Academy Award.

Absent seeing Ed’s DD2N(Ret) and checking the latest edition of the Commissioned Officers Register, I’ll have to go with the Academy Award nomination.

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**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/104 "2000-01-15T04:11:00Z")

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Hello coward. I said more inflammatory things than anyone on this thread?

The good Captain said that a large percentage of the population of this planet is inferior and actually evil, based on their appearance, which is governed by genes that have nothing to do with intelligence or morality. He also claimed to speak for everyone of his generation.

I called him names and attacked his right to speak for millions of people he doesn’t know.

What’s wrong with being racist? It’s stupid. It’s fucking patheticly stupid. And this is the straight dope, bitch. We don’t like ignorance. We don’t like stupid. No one arrested Captain Ed. We’ve just mocked him, attacked him, and done our best to drive him away. Because he has nothing to contribute. He hasn’t posted anything that doesn’t involve race. And his posts about race have been heard, and defeated before.

–John

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**Author:** ![PitBullDawg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@PitBullDawg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PitBullDawg)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/105 "2000-01-15T04:59:00Z")

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KELLIBELLI:

The saddest part of this all is that I may very well be someone on here that you love and admire very much. Stupid ho.

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The ever insensitive, politically incorrect PitBullDawg.  
Political correctness is a disease. Cure it with the truth.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/106 "2000-01-15T05:36:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Satan:  
> Which is ironic, because to justify would mean to somehow have a logical reason for hating, and there is no logical reason to hate someone for something as meaningless as skin color.

So let me get this straight. It’s absurd for people to justify racism because there’s no logical reason for it. And if anyone claims that there is a logical reason for it, they are being absurd because, as we already established, there _is_ no logical reason for it. Gee, after all that time in LBMB, is their circular reasoning starting to rub off on you?

And as for this bashing religion stuff:  
agisofia posted 01-13-2000 11:31 PM

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> Ed, you may be Catholic, but you sure ain’t a Christian.

I think that there are over a billion people that would take exception to the claim that one can be Catholic without being Christian.

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/107 "2000-01-15T06:04:00Z")

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The Ryan-

I think that Captain Ed has clearly demonstrated with his vile, hate filled racist statements that it is possible to be Catholic (capital or small “c”) without being Christian. Not everyone who professes Catholicism, or, in Ed’s case, Eastern Orthodoxy, beleives, follows or practices the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Remember, the word “Christian” means Christlike.

Go back and read Captain Ed’s posts. Then read the New Testament, special attention to the bits printed in red. See any similarity?

Me neither.

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I never could get the hang of Thursdays. - Arthur Dent

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/108 "2000-01-15T06:30:00Z")

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But being Catholic means following the teachings of Christ as well. You can’t call someone a non-Christian without implying that they’re not Catholic either. Catholicism is a subset of Christianity; you can’t be a member of the former without being a member of the latter.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/109 "2000-01-15T06:34:00Z")

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And why is it that when Captain Ed says he’s Catholic, you automatically say “Okay, he’s a Catholic”? If you don’t accept his claim that he’s a Christian, why do you accept his claim that he’s a Catholic? Do you just expect more from Christians in general than from Catholics?

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/110 "2000-01-15T06:38:00Z")

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I think you’re massively missing the point, Ryan. It’s like saying, “You may be my brother, but you ain’t no kin to me.” IOW, you aren’t acting like what you say you are. Obersturmgrupfuhrer Ed may go to a Catholic Church and read his Bible, but he ain’t no Christian.

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“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/111 "2000-01-15T06:39:00Z")

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> Originally posted by agisofia:  
> The Ryan-  
> Go back and read Captain Ed’s posts. Then read the New Testament,

What, Catholics don’t believe in the New Testament?

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> special attention to the bits printed in red.

Bits in red? You must have a different Bible than me.

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/112 "2000-01-15T06:42:00Z")

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Um, Ryan, have you actually read any of the Captain’s posts? His racist attitudes are hardly what I would call Christian. Ed claims to be an Orthodox Christian (or, if you will, a small “c” Catholic).

I don’t think the Orthodox church teaches that people of a darker color of skin are mere beasts that have learned to imitate human speech, and I know the Catholic Church doesn’t. If it did, I would have to find a different religion. Christ certainly didn’t didn’t teach this kind of racial hatred.

The question isn’t whether Catholicism is Christianity. It certainly is.

The issue is whether someone with the kind of hatred toward his fellow human being that Ed has toward black people can legitimately claim to be a Christian.

I say they can’t.

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I never could get the hang of Thursdays. - Arthur Dent

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/113 "2000-01-15T06:48:00Z")

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Ryan-

We most certainly do believe in the New Testament. We believe in the whole Bible. All seventy-three books ( that includes the seven books the Protestants edited out )

And many editions of both the Catholic and Protestant bibles have the words of Christ printed in red. In fact, the majority of the Bibles I have run into do.

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I never could get the hang of Thursdays. - Arthur Dent

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/114 "2000-01-15T06:51:00Z")

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> Originally posted by pldennison:  
> I think you’re massively missing the point, Ryan. It’s like saying, “You may be my brother, but you ain’t no kin to me.” IOW, you aren’t acting like what you say you are. Obersturmgrupfuhrer Ed may go to a Catholic Church and read his Bible, but he ain’t no Christian.

I think **you’re** missing the point. If you’re going to say that his behavior makes him unworthy of the designation “Christian”, then you should also say that his behavior makes him unworthy of the designation “Catholic”. It’s not like Catholics are held to a lower standard than everyone else.

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/115 "2000-01-15T06:57:00Z")

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No, they aren’t held to a lower standard, but unless one is officially excommunicated or otherwise ineligible to receive the sacraments, it isn’t like they kick you out, huh?

As long as one has been confirmed a Catholic, learned their Catechism, and attends Mass and Confession, they’re pretty much a Catholic. They might be a **bad** Catholic, but they’re still Catholic. Hell, I have friends who haven’t gone to Mass in 12 years who are still Catholic.

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“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/116 "2000-01-15T07:14:00Z")

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Ok, The Ryan-

Captain Ed’s behavior makes him unworthy of the designation “Catholic”

And, lest I offend some of my separated bretheren-

Captain Ed’s behavior makes him unworthy of the designation “Eastern Orthodox”

And personally, I hold Catholics to a higher standard than other Christians. What with being accused of being pagan idolators by the Fundamentalist Protestant types, we have a lot more to prove.

And Ryan, in case you’re so thick-headed that you can’t figure it out by the content of my previous posts in this thread-

I’M CATHOLIC!!!

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I never could get the hang of Thursdays. - Arthur Dent

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/117 "2000-01-15T15:05:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Gigoloman:  
> Drop it Monty. Long dead issue.

No, Mikey, you liar. YOU accused me of persecuting the man’s religion. I demand evidence that I did.

Since I didn’t and you’re just a liar, you owe me a public apology right here on this thread.

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**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/118 "2000-01-15T17:15:00Z")

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Monty did NOT say anything bad about his, or anyone else’s, religion.

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Things are not what they seem to be; nor are they otherwise.  
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**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/119 "2000-01-15T17:21:00Z")

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pldennison

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> No, they aren’t held to a lower standard, but unless one is officially excommunicated or otherwise ineligible to receive the sacraments, it isn’t like they kick you out, huh?

The things you don’t know could fill an aircraft hangar. DUH!

If you do not believe in Jesus, God, etc, you are no longer a Catholic, or a Christian for that matter. You cannot be an atheist and be a Catholic, or a Christain. We are NOT talking about lapsed Catholic here. DUH!

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Things are not what they seem to be; nor are they otherwise.  
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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-ed-racist-scumbag/3760/120 "2000-01-15T17:30:00Z")

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[[I’m convinced that Negro’s are mentally inferior to Caucasians, and this can be demonstrated quite easily. This relative stupidity, along with the overly aggressive attitude of the male Negro, has put us - we Caucasians - in jeopardy of fearing to fight for the rape of our women, etc.]]

Jeez, learn to use yer dang tenses and apostrophes there, Ed. And my husband ain’t afraid to fight for the rape of women. Uh, wait a minute…

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