# Captain Jack Vs Captain Jack

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 23, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737 "2010-09-23T03:45:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/21 "2010-09-23T16:06:02Z")

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…my favourite Captain Jack moment: (Children of Earth Spoilers)

In Torchwood: Children of Earth, Captain Jack, encased in concrete has just been rescued by Gwen, Ianto and Rhys. He is dropped from the top of a mountain, cracking the concrete and releasing the now naked Captain Jack. Gwen hands him his jacket to cover his modesty. Jack takes the jacket and instead of covering up, throws it over his shoulder and walks off with his rescuers, naked as a jaybird. 😃

For that scene alone: Harkness gets my vote.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/22 "2010-09-23T16:07:33Z")

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I totally voted for the greco roman wrestling. I don’t care who “wins” in that.

ETA: Maybe they could take turns winning. 🆒

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/23 "2010-09-23T16:25:28Z")

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Another vote for the wrestling. 😃

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/24 "2010-09-23T21:50:12Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I totally voted for the greco roman wrestling. I don’t care who “wins” in that.

I’d say we’d be the big winners there, hon.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/25 "2010-09-23T22:54:57Z")

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To add to the deliciousness that is the greco-roman answer in this poll, I keep hearing the Harkness dialogue following \* in _Captain Reynolds_’ voice…I have no idea why, and right now, I don’t care.  
I’ll be in my bunk.  
\*Jack Harkness: Ever faced another good guy before?  
Jack Sparrow: Nope.  
Jack Harkness: Me neither.  
Jack Sparrow: Kinda makes you wonder what’ll happen.  
Jack Harkness: I figure the good guy’ll win, just like always.  
Jack Sparrow: Yeah, except we’re both good guys.  
Jack Harkness: Then I figure the most good good guy will win.  
Jack Sparrow: That’s how I figure, too.  
Jack Harkness: Yep.  
Then Harkness proceeds to shoot Sparrow in the hand.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/26 "2010-09-23T22:59:10Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> Wait, did Sparrow become near-immortal in the last two movies that I haven’t seen all the way through? Or are we referring to the short period of time in the first movie when Sparrow had the cursed gold?
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> Anyway, both Jacks are (more or less) good guys, so clearly neither would lose. So, probably due to luck, distraction or other event beyond Harkness’s control, Sparrow runs Harkness through, killing him. Sparrow then leaves before Harkness revives. The two Jacks independently discover that their conflict was due to a misunderstanding and the process of defeating the real enemy commences, as Sparrow feels regret and sorrow at killing what turned out to be a good guy. Harkness’ surprise reappearence of course creates an amusing scene, with double- and triple-takes from Sparrow, swearing off of rum, etc., and finally a minorly touching scene. The enemy is jointly defeated, and right before the end credits, Harkness says ‘How are you doing?’ to whats-her-face, right before Sparrow tells him “Nay, mate, no chance there, she’s got it all for this blond sword boy. Who, admittedly, can fence a bit, but hardly much of a sailor or pirate.”  
> Because Sparrow is PG, either the Tardis shows up or Harkness’ time-travel device kicks in before he can ask Sparrow if it’s true what he’s heard about sailors.

I could totally see it panning out like that, except that the comment about sailors would be absolutely fine for a PG film.

I’m kinda confused though - Sparrow isn’t immortal, and Harkness isn’t pretty close to immortal, he’s living in the centre of its postal zone.

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**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/27 "2010-09-24T00:16:56Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …my favourite Captain Jack moment: (Children of Earth Spoilers)
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> In Torchwood: Children of Earth, Captain Jack, encased in concrete has just been rescued by Gwen, Ianto and Rhys. He is dropped from the top of a mountain, cracking the concrete and releasing the now naked Captain Jack. Gwen hands him his jacket to cover his modesty. Jack takes the jacket and instead of covering up, throws it over his shoulder and walks off with his rescuers, naked as a jaybird. 😃
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> For that scene alone: Harkness gets my vote.

LOL. Jack nothing. 😛  
Barrowman FOUGHT to be able to do that scene in the nude. W/O letting his castmates know what was in the wind before the scene was shot. Literally. Eve Miles’ expression is totally in the moment!

Best chunk of teevee in recent memory.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/28 "2010-09-24T00:26:33Z")

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> [@Saltire](#):
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> I voted for the Billy Joel song. Captain Jack will get you high tonight, get you by tonight, make you die tonight, so I guess he’s lethal in some way.

I think that’s more pertinent to Captain Jack Sparrow’s father…

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/29 "2010-09-24T00:33:04Z")

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> [@scifisam2009](#):
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> I’m kinda confused though - Sparrow isn’t immortal, and Harkness isn’t pretty close to immortal, he’s living in the centre of its postal zone.

It’s Cap’n Jack with the coin.

As a straight guy, I just had to vote for the Greco Roman wrestling. If Jack Aubry wanted to join in, I’m sure he’d be welcome.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/30 "2010-09-24T00:56:51Z")

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> [@Saltire](#):
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> I voted for the Billy Joel song. Captain Jack will get you high tonight, get you by tonight, make you die tonight, so I guess he’s lethal in some way.

Jack Sparrow is probably second only to Keith Richards (upon whom he is based) in being able to injest massive amounts of narcotics and still live. And Jack Harkness is immortal. Heroin wouldn’t stand a chance against them.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/31 "2010-09-24T03:11:15Z")

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On a somewhat related note, I was in a video store yesterday. And they had the _Torchwood_ DVD’s filed in the documentary section. And they weren’t misplaced - they were in a labelled bin.

Most likely this indicates a complete lack of knowledge about the show. But the other possibility is somebody working at that store has a very unusual worldview.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/32 "2010-09-24T03:14:50Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Most likely this indicates a complete lack of knowledge about the show. But the other possibility is somebody working at that store has a very unusual worldview.

Or they know something we don’t. \>\_\>

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-jack-vs-captain-jack/554737/33 "2010-09-24T04:05:07Z")

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This [one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg)

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