# Captain Marvel "Seen It" Spoiler Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952 "2019-03-11T16:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/21 "2019-03-11T20:57:01Z")

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Thanks, **ebb**!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/22 "2019-03-11T22:36:50Z")

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> [@ebb](#):
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> I think there’s a particular spin on it here that you don’t find in the Bourne movies, for example. The Kree were playing heavily on Carol Danver’s supposed weakness.

But that’s not [gaslighting](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Gaslighting). That said the Kree’s psychological bullying and conditioning is a cliche of many movies with male protagonists too.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/23 "2019-03-11T22:45:14Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> But that’s not [gaslighting](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Gaslighting).

Your link disagrees with you.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/24 "2019-03-11T22:53:47Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Your link disagrees with you.

The Kree are not trying to drive her mad.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/25 "2019-03-11T23:00:00Z")

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Did you read past the first paragraph?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/26 "2019-03-11T23:04:26Z")

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The best part of that link:

> [@TVTropes](#):
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> Not to be confused with [Farts on Fire](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FartsOnFire)

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/27 "2019-03-11T23:23:43Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Did you read past the first paragraph?

Yes I did. The Kree want to control her, not make her doubt reality.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/28 "2019-03-12T00:33:12Z")

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Anyone else notice how **Quartz** posts like he’s trying to gaslight us?

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/29 "2019-03-12T00:38:05Z")

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I thought it was a great movie, although among the MCU movies I think Black Panther is better. I had a Mandela effect moment when I’m Just A Girl came on. Since the movie is set in 1995 and I remember the song as having come out in 1999 or 2000 I thought they had made a mistake. It turns out my memory was faulty and the song is from 1995 :smack:.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/30 "2019-03-12T00:46:04Z")

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Holy shit.

Fury in Captain Marvel: I can’t eat toast when it’s cut in triangles.

Fury in Age of Ultron: Makes sandwich and cuts it in triangles.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/31 "2019-03-12T00:54:18Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Holy shit.
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> Fury in Captain Marvel: I can’t eat toast when it’s cut in triangles.
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> Fury in Age of Ultron: Makes sandwich and cuts it in triangles.

Fury in Age of Ultron is a Skrull!

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/32 "2019-03-12T00:56:37Z")

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Thoroughly enjoyed it, though it was a bit … average. But average for a Marvel superhero movie is still very good. For a movie where the justification seems very much to be “We need an origin movie for Captain Marvel before the second Infinity War movie” the writing was decent, a bunch of stuff I didn’t see coming. The fakeout eye injury was a nice move, made the real one more of a surprise.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/33 "2019-03-12T00:59:48Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Fury in Age of Ultron is a Skrull!

I’m just sayin’, could be true! Maybe he’s been a skrull for a while. Who would know? And it would still allow for the setup for Secret Invasion.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/34 "2019-03-12T01:05:16Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I’m just sayin’, could be true! Maybe he’s been a skrull for a while. Who would know? And it would still allow for the setup for Secret Invasion.

That would be the most subtle callback ever. If you’re right, I’ll raise a glass to you.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/35 "2019-03-12T01:28:28Z")

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In Age of Ultron, was the sandwich toasted?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/36 "2019-03-12T02:55:35Z")

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I just checked. Holy shit, it was toasted.

Did I find something? I think I found something.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/37 "2019-03-12T03:20:04Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I just checked. Holy shit, it was toasted.
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> Did I find something? I think I found something.

Did you mean [this scene?](https://youtu.be/KW8QTPYATiE)  
It’s hard for me to tell _how_ he’s cutting his sandwich…

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**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/38 "2019-03-12T03:28:22Z")

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I don’t think the toast in the first scene was what Fury made his sandwich out of. It doesn’t look toasted to me. I’m not 100% sure he cuts it diagonally - the shape of the bread and the part that’s been eaten makes it difficult to tell for sure. It’s still a pretty good catch.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/39 "2019-03-12T13:33:30Z")

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Looks to me like he broke the sandwich cross-wise, not diagonally. If he’s a Skrull, I don’t think that’s an indicator.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/40 "2019-03-12T14:53:40Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Looks to me like he broke the sandwich cross-wise, not diagonally. If he’s a Skrull, I don’t think that’s an indicator.

and we’re just supposed to take your word on that?

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