# Captain Marvel "Seen It" Spoiler Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952 "2019-03-11T16:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/61 "2019-03-12T21:34:24Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Everyone on the team seemed to have a unique weapon. I assumed they were tech, but maybe they were some form of tech that enhanced a Kree’s innate power? So that Vers having photon blasts that she couldn’t control wouldn’t be a surprise? > > Or instead of innate, maybe the Kree can give certain people powers (see the Inhumans), and that is how they explain to her that she has photon blasts? > [@ebb](#): > > I don’t know anything about the comic source material, but the impression I got from the movie is that the Kree had a process of powering up their operatives which worked a little differently from person to person. This process involved putting a little white disk in the back of their neck. The revelation that Danvers makes is that her device isn’t an enabler, it’s an inhibitor, because unlike the others her powers are baked-in from the power source explosion. Right. Jude Law kept telling her that the Kree had given her her power and could take it away. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/62 "2019-03-12T22:12:26Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Right. Jude Law kept telling her that the Kree had given her her power and could take it away. As did the Supreme Intelligence. Anyway, I thought it was Bening who stole the show, not Mendelsohn, though he was excellent. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/63 "2019-03-12T22:12:38Z")
Am I the only one who wanted her to stick with that neon look? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/64 "2019-03-13T00:22:52Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Am I the only one who wanted her to stick with that neon look? I certainly hope so. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/65 "2019-03-13T18:40:20Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Am I the only one who wanted her to stick with that neon look? With the fiery mohawk? I loved it, and it “went” with the 90s punk/riot grrl callouts in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/66 "2019-03-14T22:44:19Z")
RE: the toast controversy: Isn’t the simplest explanation that Fury has aged about 20 years between CM and Ultron and has grown out of his thing about triangular bread? You know, the same way we all change as we age. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/67 "2019-03-15T02:08:00Z")
It kinda bugs me that no only did nobody call her “Captain Marvel”, the actual name of the movie, but also there is no reason for anyone to ever call her that and specific reasons not to (“My name is Carol Danvers!” and “It’s pronounced Mar-vell, two different words”. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/68 "2019-03-15T02:23:49Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > It kinda bugs me that no only did nobody call her “Captain Marvel”, the actual name of the movie, but also there is no reason for anyone to ever call her that and specific reasons not to (“My name is Carol Danvers!” and “It’s pronounced Mar-vell, two different words”. That’s just continuing and extending the trend of “superheroes don’t use code names.” That’s how it’s going to be for now. I don’t mind it. A story’s title or the name of a series can just be a description. A character doesn’t have to be addressed that way in-world. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/69 "2019-03-15T02:53:52Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > That’s just continuing and extending the trend of “superheroes don’t use code names.” That’s how it’s going to be for now. I don’t mind it. A story’s title or the name of a series can just be a description. A character doesn’t have to be addressed that way in-world. It’s not though. It’s literally naming the movie after another character, “Mar-Vell”, while also inexplicably expecting us to think of the main character as “Captain Marvel” for no apparent reason besides it being the movie title. As I said earlier, it would be as though Tony Stark’s old piano tutor was named Iro Nman so let’s call this movie (and Stark) “Iron Man”. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/70 "2019-03-15T11:02:34Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Oh, and Stan Lee > **Practicing his lines from the Mallrats script!!!** Kevin Smith reacts to Stan Lee’s cameo: [https://youtu.be/2j0gsV9J7Ts](https://youtu.be/2j0gsV9J7Ts) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/71 "2019-03-15T12:21:28Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > That’s just continuing and extending the trend of “superheroes don’t use code names.” That’s how it’s going to be for now. I don’t mind it. A story’s title or the name of a series can just be a description. A character doesn’t have to be addressed that way in-world. Everyone else uses their code name though, or their name in case of Thor and Dr. Strange. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/72 "2019-03-15T13:03:49Z")
Look, if you really care about this then go that’s your worry, I guess. I think it works fine the way they handled it. In a genre that is ripe with reboots, retcons, continuity faults, I’m happy to go with it. This is a fantasy genre, just go with the flow. The title of a movie isn’t in-world, so there’s no problem here, so far as I’m concerned. It’s just a label for a series. One of my favorite movie series was called the Pink Panther. The star of the series was a character called Inspector Jacques Clouseau. The only in-story “character” named the Pink Panther was a MacGuffin in the first movie that was never mentioned again. Each movie began with a cartoon featuring the Saturday morning cartoon character the Pink Panther who had nothing to do with the story. Works for me. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/73 "2019-03-15T13:57:34Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Look, if you really care about this then go that’s your worry, I guess. I think it works fine the way they handled it. In a genre that is ripe with reboots, retcons, continuity faults, I’m happy to go with it. This is a fantasy genre, just go with the flow. The title of a movie isn’t in-world, so there’s no problem here, so far as I’m concerned. It’s just a label for a series. You seem to keep skipping the fact that it’s a nonsensical label as presented in the film. Maybe no one calls Natasha “Black Widow” but it’s no stretch to figure out that fighting woman in black with red is probably the person “Black Widow” refers to. More importantly, _no one else is named Black Widow_. In contrast, not only is there a Mar-Vell in Captain Marvel but they even have a scene where Fury is saying “Hey, let’s call her Marvel instead!” – referring to a _completely different person_ than the hero. A hero who we are, for some reason, now supposed to think of as “Captain Marvel”. It’s dumb and poorly executed. And maybe you’re okay with dumb and poorly executed but that doesn’t actually make it better. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/74 "2019-03-15T14:08:37Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > It’s dumb and poorly executed. And maybe you’re okay with dumb and poorly executed but that doesn’t actually make it better. Specially when they had a perfect set up with her calling the little girl “Lt. Trouble”. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/75 "2019-03-15T14:52:29Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Am I the only one who wanted her to stick with that neon look? It was too TRON for me. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/76 "2019-03-15T14:54:13Z")
Also the “really care about this” jab is silly. We’re talking about it here because this is the thread to talk about it. I doubt anyone is shaking their fists or interrupting family dinners over it. No one is even saying it made the movie terrible. People are just saying it was dumb and poorly executed. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/77 "2019-03-15T15:39:06Z")
And I disagree. I think it was clever and well-executed. I chuckled. It nodded to comic-book continuity … Carol Danvers inherited the Captain Marvel legacy from a line that included a Kree called “Mar-Vell.” It was a feint. “Hey, here’s where we’re tying in that whole thing with this movie, but, surprise, no one thinks (yet?) of calling Carol ‘Captain Marvel.’” It works for me. > [@](#): > > Also the “really care about this” jab is silly. I didn’t make a “jab” or mock anyone for talking about the issue. I just think you’re wrong. I don’t consider this a knock against the movie at all. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/78 "2019-03-15T17:40:15Z")
Just to be clear I did love the movie, that was just one minor thing that jumped out at me. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/79 "2019-03-16T21:37:45Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > That’s just continuing and extending the trend of “superheroes don’t use code names.” That’s how it’s going to be for now. I don’t mind it. A story’s title or the name of a series can just be a description. A character doesn’t have to be addressed that way in-world. > [@DigitalC](#): > > Everyone else uses their code name though, or their name in case of Thor and Dr. Strange. And maybe both 😉 : > [@](#): > > **Peter Parker:** No. I’m Peter, by the way. > > **Dr. Stephen Strange:** Doctor Strange. > > **Peter Parker:** Oh, you’re using made-up names. Um… I’m Spider-Man, then. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/80 "2019-03-16T21:59:59Z")
> [@simster](#): > > When Fury is talking with Cap Marvel in the bar - Fury asks “how do I know you’re not a skrull?” - CM photon blasts the juke box and says “skrulls can’t do that” > > Fury: And I’m just supposed to take your word on that? The implication is also that since she can do that, if she were a Skrull, he’d be dead already. > [@asterion](#): > > Am I the only one who wanted her to stick with that neon look? Not entirely. > [@Quartz](#): > > It was too TRON for me. The phrase “too TRON” does not compute. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952.md?page=5)