# Captain Marvel "Seen It" Spoiler Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952 "2019-03-11T16:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/141 "2019-04-22T01:51:42Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I just want to say Thank You to all of you for getting my daughter to like “a comic book flick”. Yes, you helped; based on the comments here I told her to trust the Teeming Millions and try it. > > She’d said no way when it came out. Told me she’s such a Star Wars/GOT/Potter fan that she doesn’t have room for another franchise. But out of the blue she texted that she’d seen it, loved it, “But what’s up with the cat? Can you give me some backstory there?” _“You mean the FLERKIN?”_ So that led into a flurry of texts where I ended with mentioning that the post-credits Coughing Up The Tesseract scene _could_ be modern day… hmmm… and said: > > _“Just watch, it’ll be Cap’n Marvel, Ant-Man and Goose fixing the world in Endgame.”_ I like your daughter! I’m also into Star Wars and Harry Potter, but I’ve never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. Goose had to have horked up the Tesseract prior to the events in the first Avengers movie, not present day. At the beginning of Avengers, SHIELD is experimenting with it, when Loki appears and steals it, while also using the Mind Stone\* to zap Hawkeye and Dr. Selvig, and then destroying the entire complex because he’s a dick. Loki later uses it to punch a hole in the sky over Stark Tower, so the Chitari could come through it and try to destroy New York. It was then taken to Asgard and was in Odin’s trophy room until Loki stole it again right before Ragnarok, which was why he had it to give to Thanos. - I still don’t understand why the Mind Stone in Loki’s scepter had to be blue like the Tesseract. It took me years to realize that there were TWO DIFFERENT Infinity stones in Avengers. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/142 "2019-04-22T01:54:10Z")
Well, then, why can’t there be TWO DIFFERENT TESSERACTS? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/143 "2019-04-22T05:09:58Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Well, then, why can’t there be TWO DIFFERENT TESSERACTS? See, I just always thought it was something like that, since they were both blue. After Infinity War I wanted to make sure I was very clear on which (MCU) Infinity Stone was which and where they came from and everything about them. Some were easy (Time Stone, green, with Doctor Strange) and others were more confusing. The fact that Loki had the Space Stone (Tesseract) AND the Mind Stone (scepter) kind of blew my mind. Because they were both blue. And because I obviously didn’t pay enough attention along the way. And because the Mind Stone in Vision’s head is yellow. I still believed until recently that Gamora had the Reality Stone from the time she was a little girl because right before Thanos kidnaps her he gives her a dagger with a red jewel in it. So wait, that wasn’t the Reality Stone after all? But no, it was just an ordinary red jewel. Damn! ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/144 "2019-04-23T00:53:54Z")
The Tesseract Goose hairballs up has to be in the 90s or 00s because the monitor was a CRT. Even my cheapass job started doing flat panels by the mid 00s. SHIELD would have spent the money on them even earlier. I mean, if they’re going to give Fury a tray of eyeballs, they’re gonna give him the latest computer tech. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/145 "2019-04-23T04:50:33Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > The Tesseract Goose hairballs up has to be in the 90s or 00s because the monitor was a CRT. Even my cheapass job started doing flat panels by the mid 00s. SHIELD would have spent the money on them even earlier. > > I mean, if they’re going to give Fury a tray of eyeballs, they’re gonna give him the latest computer tech. \*\* TRAY OF EYEBALLS\*\*: the definitive podcast that follows Nick Fury from comics to screen and everywhere in between… ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/146 "2019-04-23T17:25:15Z")
I really enjoyed the film, but kept getting distracted by how much I thought that the actress playing [Maria Rambeau](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/XpBrAx_yn1Fc0wZXPkaSswZ3KIM/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2019/03/07/036/n/1922283/tmp_4q8ZcF_33ad64919803e357_CaptainMarvel5c804f9445577.jpg) loooked like [Don Cheadle](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/34efd7b69fbef0d6f4123fab257ba656ce20830b/c=31-0-2691-2000/local/-/media/2016/05/02/USATODAY/USATODAY/635978079850195043-SP-15262-R.jpg?width=540&height=405&fit=crop). It’s not as apparent in these photos, but the instant I saw her I reminded myself to Google her when I got home to find out if they were related (they do not appear to be). ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/147 "2019-04-23T19:49:06Z")
I **LOVED** it. This movie just totally resonated with me, as a woman in uniform (without superpowers so far, however), as someone that came of age in the 90s, I loved everything about this movie. The trying to force her into a box, oppress her, make her believe she is less than she is. Every little snide remark “Hey beautiful, you should smile more!” and “You do know why they call it cockpit, right?” All of the flashbacks to her crashing and burning when she challenged people, all of her sarcastic remarks… I saw it twice and each time, friends of mine with me (different groups) laughed and said “Of course you loved it, you are just like her…” Still waiting for my photon blasters though. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/148 "2019-04-23T19:52:07Z")
My daughter and I saw it today, and I really really liked it. It has some good twists, and Brie Larson was great. Plus all the wonderful Stan Lee visibility. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/149 "2019-04-23T22:06:54Z")
OK, just saw it. First of all, **[Moderating]** > [@bienville](#): > > Anyone else notice how **Quartz** posts like he’s trying to gaslight us? **bienville** (and later, **Acsenray** ), you know better than this. If you have an issue with another poster, take it to the Pit. The only reason this isn’t an official Warning is because of the time gap before I noticed it. Please, people, if you see something like this, report it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/150 "2019-04-23T22:15:59Z")
OK, that said: I liked the montage of her failing repeatedly… and then getting back up again repeatedly. And on a similar character-building note, I also liked the “I don’t have anything to prove to you” fight. The twist with the Skrulls was well-done. As to why she trusted them, the black box recording triggered some of her own memories to come back, where she remembered that it was the Kree who attacked her in the first place, and then lied about everything. Which still doesn’t mean that they should trust the _other_ aliens completely, but they don’t, hence Fury keeping the flerkin around to keep the Skrulls in line. I thought that all of the “hey, look, it’s the 90s” references were a bit overdone. Some were necessary, sure, but there’s also a lot that’s the same from then to now. As for the triangular toast, I hadn’t realized that before, but now that it’s pointed out to me, it’s obvious: Fury is deliberately manufacturing a few “copyright traps”, in case someone is going to use that information against him. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/151 "2019-04-24T21:35:00Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Well, then, why can’t there be TWO DIFFERENT TESSERACTS? That had me confused as well. The timeline for me does not add up, unless it was Tony’s dad that recovered the original tesseract from redskull’s bomber or wreckage in the arctic. If it was Tony that recovered it, then that means there are two of them. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/152 "2019-04-24T21:41:38Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > That had me confused as well. The timeline for me does not add up, unless it was Tony’s dad that recovered the original tesseract from redskull’s bomber or wreckage in the arctic. If it was Tony that recovered it, then that means there are two of them. I believe (correct me if I’m wrong, y’all) that Howard Stark recovered the Tesseract, Mar-Vell got a hold of it, and — okay, just going to google the rest, here’s a timeline someone made [A complete Tesseract timeline in the Marvel Cinematic Universe : Hypable](https://www.hypable.com/tesseract-timeline-marvel-cinematic-universe/) ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/153 "2019-04-24T22:01:26Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > I believe (correct me if I’m wrong, y’all) that Howard Stark recovered the Tesseract, Mar-Vell got a hold of it, and — okay, just going to google the rest, here’s a timeline someone made [A complete Tesseract timeline in the Marvel Cinematic Universe : Hypable](https://www.hypable.com/tesseract-timeline-marvel-cinematic-universe/) Okay that makes sense, timeline is secure ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952/154 "2019-04-24T22:19:06Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > That had me confused as well. The timeline for me does not add up, unless it was Tony’s dad that recovered the original tesseract from redskull’s bomber or wreckage in the arctic. If it was Tony that recovered it, then that means there are two of them. Howard Stark recovering the Tesseract from the ocean floor was one of the credit scenes in the first Captain America movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-marvel-seen-it-spoiler-thread/830952.md?page=7)