# Captain Midnight is a Fat-Ass! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 6, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787 "2010-09-06T12:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/21 "2010-09-06T17:52:22Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > **I’m fat** and have a gay mom (who is also fat)- I see nothing wrong with the OP. Bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/22 "2010-09-06T17:55:34Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I honestly wonder what is going to happen if everyone eventually just accepts it all. Will they finally just shut the hell up and let us get some peace and quiet or can I start my own straight white-male pride parade to get on equal footing? You really are a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/23 "2010-09-06T17:56:01Z")
Deploring bad taste doesn’t make you a conservative. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/24 "2010-09-06T17:58:26Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > **I’m fat** and have a gay mom (who is also fat)- I see nothing wrong with the OP. > > Bullshit. Na, I’m definitely fat. Trust me. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/25 "2010-09-06T18:11:44Z")
Well, let’s see, there’s this [little thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=572923). Or [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12681989&postcount=14), where he outs himself as a Birther. Charming guy, simply wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![splankt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@splankt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splankt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/26 "2010-09-06T18:13:02Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So, **BrightNShiny** , out of curiosity, what other things might cause you to have sympathy for **Captain Midnight** but revoke it due to his post? Victim of arson? Loss of a limb? Put in the hospital by a drunk driver? Having a loved one raped? Being mugged? Please, do fill me in. > > And, is there _anything_ that would cause you to have sympathy for **Captain Midnight** in spite of his oh-so-horrific post that hurt your widdle feewings so badwy? Not to speak for BrightNShiny, but I suspect that he will feel sympathy for Captain Midnight when Captain Midnight stops expecting other people to magically change themselves to suit his preferences, while nonetheless whining that it’s too hard for him to take responsibility for his behavior, even when health is at risk. I don’t know, seems pretty clear in the text. You must be pretty dumb in order to not have figured that out yourself. > [@Shagnasty](#): > > That was one giant non sequitor of an OP. I am the polar opposite of gay myself but I have known many gay people over the years (none of this “some of my best friends are…” crap, I hung out with them in groups by choice and always had a great time as the token straight man). I am a social libertarian and honestly don’t care what other people do because I am so self-centered but sometimes these types of things run in a huge loop so that you become so tolerant that you find yourself back at the same place as the bigots. > > Most of the the gay males I have known really are pervs who must drink pure Spanish Fly instead of water. Drug issues are no better. They aren’t just another version of a regular domestic couple like they show on TV. Like I said, it sounds fun but no one should act confused about why AIDS spreads so rapidly among them. There is no big mystery there. It is the same thing with gay pride parades. I honestly don’t care which side someone likes their toast buttered on. There is responsible activism and then there is just plain bad taste and being gay doesn’t excuse anyone from the latter mortal sin. The trannies and the polys are no better. > > I honestly wonder what is going to happen if everyone eventually just accepts it all. Will they finally just shut the hell up and let us get some peace and quiet or can I start my own straight white-male pride parade to get on equal footing? The confusion in this post is somewhat astounding. You try to represent yourself as having lots of gay friends, but your extreme, explicit contempt for gay people is obvious. If that’s how you think of your friends, you clearly have a difficult time with human interaction. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/27 "2010-09-06T18:50:41Z")
> [@BrightNShiny](#): > > However, this guy has no problem asserting that homosexuality is within people’s control while at the same time trying to whine that his own obesity may be beyond his own control. IME there are probably a lot of Dopers who fall into this category, they just don’t post about the first part on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/28 "2010-09-06T19:17:29Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Well, let’s see, there’s this [little thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=572923). > > Or [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12681989&postcount=14), where he outs himself as a Birther. > Charming guy, simply wonderful. Interesting. It would appear that the OP had to search long and hard (sorry for anyone who was forced to think about gayness there) to find the one non-loathsome thing CM has said, and then pitted him for that. You’re doing it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![splankt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@splankt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splankt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/29 "2010-09-06T19:23:19Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Interesting. It would appear that the OP had to search long and hard (sorry for anyone who was forced to think about gayness there) to find the one non-loathsome thing CM has said, and then pitted him for that. > > You’re doing it wrong. He’s certainly a piece of work. But if you’re saying the fact that he’s fat is the non-loathsome thing he’s said, you’re right that it’s not, but it’s still worth pointing out the difference between his standards for himself and the standards he expects others to meet. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/30 "2010-09-06T19:36:32Z")
> [@splankt](#): > > > [@Shagnasty](#): > > > > That was one giant non sequitor of an OP. I am the polar opposite of gay myself but I have known many gay people over the years (none of this “some of my best friends are…” crap, I hung out with them in groups by choice and always had a great time as the token straight man). I am a social libertarian and honestly don’t care what other people do because I am so self-centered but sometimes these types of things run in a huge loop so that you become so tolerant that you find yourself back at the same place as the bigots. > > > > Most of the the gay males I have known really are pervs who must drink pure Spanish Fly instead of water. Drug issues are no better. They aren’t just another version of a regular domestic couple like they show on TV. Like I said, it sounds fun but no one should act confused about why AIDS spreads so rapidly among them. There is no big mystery there. It is the same thing with gay pride parades. I honestly don’t care which side someone likes their toast buttered on. There is responsible activism and then there is just plain bad taste and being gay doesn’t excuse anyone from the latter mortal sin. The trannies and the polys are no better. > > > > I honestly wonder what is going to happen if everyone eventually just accepts it all. Will they finally just shut the hell up and let us get some peace and quiet or can I start my own straight white-male pride parade to get on equal footing? > > The confusion in this post is somewhat astounding. You try to represent yourself as having lots of gay friends, but your extreme, explicit contempt for gay people is obvious. If that’s how you think of your friends, you clearly have a difficult time with human interaction. The confusion is all on your part. **Shaf** was specific that he was not refering to his aquaintances as friends. And I read nothing from **Shag** to suggest that he has contempt for gay people in general. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/31 "2010-09-06T19:45:58Z")
So gay people are fine and dandy as far as finding the best parties goes but when it comes to treating them like human beings, they’re far too promiscuous and lascivious to warrant respect? ---
**Author:** ![splankt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@splankt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splankt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/32 "2010-09-06T20:00:15Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > The confusion is all on your part. **Shaf** was specific that he was not refering to his aquaintances as friends. He was very clear on describing not just having one or two token gay friends but rather that his social life, in large part, consists of hanging out in groups in which everyone else is gay. Now, I suspect you’re right, though. He probably does spend most of his time around people who don’t consider him a friend, because he probably doesn’t have a very easy time finding friends. > [@](#): > > And I read nothing from **Shag** to suggest that he has contempt for gay people in general. You write remarkably well for someone who, evidently, can’t read at all. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/33 "2010-09-06T20:01:17Z")
> [@splankt](#): > > Not to speak for BrightNShiny, but I suspect that he will feel sympathy for Captain Midnight when Captain Midnight stops expecting other people to magically change themselves to suit his preferences, while nonetheless whining that it’s too hard for him to take responsibility for his behavior, even when health is at risk. > > I don’t know, seems pretty clear in the text. You must be pretty dumb in order to not have figured that out yourself. Interesting. YOU attempt to answer a question specifically directed at someone else, yet you _don’t_ answer the question (even to the point that you can, as you are not the person I was asking the personal opinion of). :rolleyes: So, your uselessness there aside, I appreciate your contribution. Prior to your offering I had zero opinion of you. Now I know you to be a buttinsky and a full-fledged dumbass. Thank you. Ignorance fought and all that. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/34 "2010-09-06T20:03:06Z")
> [@splankt](#): > > > [@Smeghead](#): > > > > Interesting. It would appear that the OP had to search long and hard (sorry for anyone who was forced to think about gayness there) to find the one non-loathsome thing CM has said, and then pitted him for that. > > > > You’re doing it wrong. > > He’s certainly a piece of work. But if you’re saying the fact that he’s fat is the non-loathsome thing he’s said, you’re right that it’s not, but it’s still worth pointing out the difference between his standards for himself and the standards he expects others to meet. But what this excuse of a Pitting did was take someone who may very well deserve Pitting, and then not Pit him over his various examples of asshatness but instead made fun of his being fat and insulted the whole class of fat people in the process. No he did not successful mock double standards or point out some alleged hypocrisy … Heck, **CM** was not even using a double standard. He is not claiming that he exercises and eats right and can’t lose weight - he states clearly that he chooses not to, has not bothered to get good information, and has not developed the self control to stand up to his cravings. Again, not really on subject about why the op in that thread eats likes a pig and doesn’t exercise and yet does _not_ get fat … a bit narcissisitic … but really. If **CM** is a jerk then Pit him for his being a jerk, but Pitting him for being fat because he’s otherwise a jerk? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/35 "2010-09-06T20:11:28Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > So gay people are fine and dandy as far as finding the best parties goes but when it comes to treating them like human beings, they’re far too promiscuous and lascivious to warrant respect? Not at all. There is just a mixed message sometimes. Gay people aren’t one monolithic group of course but sometimes the media likes to present them as a direct equivalent of the quiet heterosexual down the street when it doesn’t always work that way. I have seen personally witnessed the things that are straight out of the Religious Right’s worst nightmare. Granted, I mostly hung out with them when I lived in New Orleans which has the cream of the crop on top but I have also seen it in San Francisco and Cape Cod. It gets hard to keep track of which stereotype people are supposed to believe sometimes. Some might say there shouldn’t be any stereotype at all because they are just people which gets my vote but then you wouldn’t be having gay pride parades and pink ribbon campaigns. The Onion article referenced above was spot on as usual. ---
**Author:** ![splankt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@splankt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splankt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/36 "2010-09-06T20:12:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Interesting. YOU attempt to answer a question specifically directed at someone else, yet you _don’t_ answer the question (even to the point that you can, as you are not the person I was asking the personal opinion of). :rolleyes: > > So, your uselessness there aside, I appreciate your contribution. Prior to your offering I had zero opinion of you. Now I know you to be a buttinsky and a full-fledged dumbass. > > Thank you. Ignorance fought and all that. You were clearly confused about something that’s not that confusing. I attempted to help. I’m sorry you’re not intelligent enough to understand things even after they are explained to you. It’s never surprising to see a moron stick up for another one. Given that this guy is seemingly quite the bigot, I’m guessing you’re sticking up for one of your own. > [@DSeid](#): > > But what this excuse of a Pitting did was take someone who may very well deserve Pitting, and then not Pit him over his various examples of asshatness but instead made fun of his being fat and insulted the whole class of fat people in the process. No he did not successful mock double standards or point out some alleged hypocrisy … He certainly mocked it. Whether it was successful or not depends, I suppose, on whether the reader was able to understand his post. I certainly had no trouble. > [@](#): > > Pitting him for being fat because he’s otherwise a jerk? WTF? Pitting him for expecting other people to change something unalterable about themselves, just to please him, while he refuses to change something he very much could change about himself even to protect his own health? Look, I’m sorry if you feel sensitive about your weight (as your misplaced comment about the thread being an insult to all fat people suggests) but there’s a perfectly valid, clear juxtaposition here. I’m getting the idea that weight is a very sensitive topic around here, apparently so much so that the fellow’s anti-gay commentary is much less important to posters here than the fact that someone else pointed out that he’s fat. ---
**Author:** ![splankt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@splankt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splankt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/37 "2010-09-06T20:14:41Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Gay people aren’t one monolithic group of course Juxtaposing this line with what you posted earlier is, well, fascinating. It’s too bad that I suspect you aren’t quite capable of appreciating irony but I hope everyone else here gets a chuckle out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/38 "2010-09-06T20:18:20Z")
> [@splankt](#): > > Pitting him for expecting other people to change something unalterable about themselves, just to please him, while he refuses to change something he very much could change about himself even to protect his own health? Pitting him for not understanding that one’s sexuality is innate is one thing. Pitting him for being fat is another. All the OP is doing is demonstrating his own insensitivity to fat people. He’s not doing anything to further the cause of gay acceptance; hell, he’s probably setting it back. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/39 "2010-09-06T20:21:04Z")
> [@splankt](#): > > Look, I’m sorry if you feel sensitive about your weight (as your misplaced comment about the thread being an insult to all fat people suggests) but there’s a perfectly valid, clear juxtaposition here. > > I’m getting the idea that weight is a very sensitive topic around here, apparently so much so that the fellow’s anti-gay commentary is much less important to posters here than the fact that someone else pointed out that he’s fat. Weight is an incredibly sensitive topic here- shit, I’d say more so than homophobia. It’s crazy, but that’s how it is. I don’t understand where folks are confused- like **splankt** said, we’ve got **CM** railing against people for something most reasonable people know is not something they can change-- even evoking the WONT SOMEONE THINK OF MAH CHILDREN defense- while he’s sitting there teaching his kids a lifestyle that is far more directly damaging than a lil’ homoness ever could be. My mom’s gay. I’m not. Her gayness never really affected me one way or another. What did affect me was the eating habits she taught me, the lack of exercise I had, and the fact that my mother is now aged beyond her years due to poor health and I- as her only child- am going to lose my mother far sooner than I should have to because of her health choices over her lifetime. Just now at 24, I’m working my butt off to be healthy so I don’t someday teach my kids this same cycle. If **CM** cares so much about the lessons being taught his kids, perhaps he should start at home. Ya know, just speaking as the kid of a big ol’ deviant myself. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/captain-midnight-is-a-fat-ass/552787/40 "2010-09-06T20:22:41Z")
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