# Car bomb explodes outside Palm Springs, CA fertility clinic, killing the car's occupant \[17-May-2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 17, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482 "2025-05-17T23:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/21 "2025-05-19T13:41:33Z")
The local CBS station did [an interview](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/palm-springs-fertility-clinic-explosion-father-of-suspect-speaks/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=822389673) with the bomber’s estranged father. > Barktus also said that when his son was nine years old, he accidentally burned their family home down while trying a trick with matches but never noticed any red flags. > > “He would make a smoke bomb, stink bomb, kid things,” his father said. “He didn’t make anything dangerous. When I say bombs, it wasn’t like a bomb bomb. … It was like something you just throw on the ground and it pops.” Nope, no red flags there! ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/22 "2025-05-19T13:48:01Z")
For a terrorist attack, this is getting very little media attention. I saw a reference to it on Blue Sky, and then this thread with a couple of links. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/23 "2025-05-19T14:16:36Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yep, antinatalist. With a side of incel? [“The suspect was reportedly dealing with depression and had personal relationship issues, law enforcement officials close to the investigation said.”](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/palm-springs-fertility-clinic-bomb-anti-natalism-rcna207543) ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/24 "2025-05-19T15:42:10Z")
Being a young man with depression hardly makes him an Incel. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/25 "2025-05-19T15:46:51Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > For a terrorist attack, this is getting very little media attention. I saw a reference to it on Blue Sky, and then this thread with a couple of links. Doesn’t fit the narrative. Terrorist attacks mostly get attention if they fit into a larger story, and especially if they can be used politically. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/26 "2025-05-19T16:35:49Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Being a young man with depression hardly makes him an Incel. Coupled with “relationship issues” might. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/27 "2025-05-19T16:43:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s so refreshing, these days, to see a non-political sort of crazy. > [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > Is it non-political? Seems very left-leaning to me. I don’t know if anti-natalism itself is a left wing belief, but it certainly touches on some other left winged beliefs and there’s some overlap. For example, environmentalism is generally left wing, and some anti natalists want fewer humans because they think humans are uniquely damaging to the environment. > [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > We’ve had a few anti-natalists on the board, like: And some posts that are right on the cusp here > [@Is There Any Practical Way to Increase the Birthrate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-practical-way-to-increase-the-birthrate/1012655): > > Most countries’ birthrates are now below that needed to replace the current populations. Mostly we consider this a good thing. Put that aside for a moment. Many things have been tried to encourage women to have more children. These include cash incentives, free or low-cost child care and so on. None of these ideas have worked. Can you imagine any practical way to increase birthrates in a population? I cannot. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/28 "2025-05-19T18:24:02Z")
They know who did it, and nobody else died. There are also no known accomplices. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/29 "2025-05-19T18:28:47Z")
Totally. If he were Muslim or an undocumented immigrant or something, I’m sure it would receive the same minimal coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/30 "2025-05-19T19:02:45Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > If he were Muslim or an undocumented immigrant or something, I’m sure it would receive the same minimal coverage. Or a right winger driving a Cybertruck. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/31 "2025-05-19T19:02:47Z")
Bombing while Brown / Black is always a hit with the news media. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/32 "2025-05-19T19:14:20Z")
The Exploding Cybertruck story was huge (well, for a few days, but that’s all any story lasts nowadays) and that guy was white. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/33 "2025-05-19T21:07:43Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Bombing while Brown / Black is always a hit with the news media. Whereas it’s the exact opposite for mass shooters. Seems like right-wing terrorists and Muslim terrorists both get a lot of attention, but left-wing or unclassifiable ones less so. Also, no one was killed except the terrorist himself. If he’d blown up a bunch of people it would be in the news regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/34 "2025-05-19T21:34:42Z")
Can you name any black mass shooters who didn’t get a lot of attention? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/35 "2025-05-19T21:48:33Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > For a terrorist attack, this is getting very little media attention. I saw a reference to it on Blue Sky, and then this thread with a couple of links. It was a suicide with some property damage - at best, you could call it a failed terrorist attack. Those are hardly major news. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/36 "2025-05-19T22:44:59Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Totally. If he were Muslim or an undocumented immigrant or something, I’m sure it would receive the same minimal coverage. Like a lot of things these days you have to know where to look. This is getting a lot of traction on Right Wing social media (left wing terrorist). But now it’s being pushed aside by the Biden cancer story (they lied to us he’s been dying for years). ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/37 "2025-05-19T23:00:58Z")
Sounds like a terrible place to look for stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/38 "2025-05-19T23:51:43Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I don’t know if anti-natalism itself is a left wing belief, but it certainly touches on some other left winged beliefs and there’s some overlap. I would say it follows from a number of left-wing beliefs taken to their logical extreme. Similar to how if you really, truly believe that abortion is murder, then abortion clinics are filled with murderers, and then it’s a fairly short step to justify bombing one. Most people don’t take their ideology to such an extreme, but there are always outliers. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/39 "2025-05-19T23:54:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The Exploding Cybertruck story was huge (well, for a few days, but that’s all any story lasts nowadays) and that guy was white. I’d assume it was prominent because (a) there was excellent video from more than one angle and (b) it was a Cybertruck, with all the attendant associations, good and bad. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482/40 "2025-05-20T00:02:31Z")
I’ve got an uncle who founded a seemingly antinatalist nonprofit in the 70s. He isn’t violent but rather makes speeches around the world about why people should stop having children. The man and his wife are despondent that a proponent of such a cause would make a bomb. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-bomb-explodes-outside-palm-springs-ca-fertility-clinic-killing-the-cars-occupant-17-may-2025/1018482.md?page=3)