# Car Dopers - Can you ID the Car in this Old Photograph?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 6, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286 "2016-01-06T01:59:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/1 "2016-01-06T01:59:18Z")

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There is part of the model or make name on the right, but I keep striking out.

Bonus gratitude from me if you can tell me the model year.

[![](http://transascity.org/files/history/Jorgensen_Christine_Unknown.jpg) ](http://transascity.org/files/history/Jorgensen_Christine_Unknown.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/2 "2016-01-06T02:15:07Z")

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Looks like a 1957 Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, although there are other versions of the side decoration, so it may be a specific trim level.

[![](https://assets.rebelmouse.io/media-library/image.jpg?id=30866979) ](https://assets.rebelmouse.io/media-library/image.jpg?id=30866979)

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/3 "2016-01-06T02:24:34Z")

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Here’s a closeup of the model badge from a 1951 Country Squire that seems to match.

[![](http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/1951-ford-woodie-country-squire-emblem-jill-reger.jpg) ](http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/1951-ford-woodie-country-squire-emblem-jill-reger.jpg)

And one from the same era - [http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/images/1951%20FORD%20COUNTRY%20SQUIRE%20EMBLEMS.JPG](http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/images/1951%20FORD%20COUNTRY%20SQUIRE%20EMBLEMS.JPG)

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/4 "2016-01-06T02:33:08Z")

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That was really quick, thank you!

There are upside-down numerals in the photo which indicate the photo could be from October 1956. I suppose that could mean it’s possible it was a 1957 model, if they produced them in advance of the calendar year back then…

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/5 "2016-01-06T02:46:16Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> That was really quick, thank you!
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> There are upside-down numerals in the photo which indicate the photo could be from October 1956. I suppose that could mean it’s possible it was a 1957 model, if they produced them in advance of the calendar year back then…

I think the numbers are right-side up. Possibly having to do with parking.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/6 "2016-01-06T03:02:32Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> That was really quick, thank you!
> 
> There are upside-down numerals in the photo which indicate the photo could be from October 1956. I suppose that could mean it’s possible it was a 1957 model, if they produced them in advance of the calendar year back then…

[Getty Images](http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/christine-jorgensen-as-she-looks-over-her-damaged-auto-that-news-photo/97258655) says it was an accident on May 9,1959.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/7 "2016-01-06T03:10:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Getty Images](http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/christine-jorgensen-as-she-looks-over-her-damaged-auto-that-news-photo/97258655) says it was an accident on May 9,1959.

Wow. Thank you very much!

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/8 "2016-01-06T03:36:04Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Looks like a 1957 Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, although there are other versions of the side decoration, so it may be a specific trim level.
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> [http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/05/1957Ford\_01\_700.jpg](http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/05/1957Ford_01_700.jpg)

The Squire trim was faux wood panels so this car was a [1957 Country Sedan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Country_Sedan#).

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/9 "2016-01-06T04:26:35Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> The Squire trim was faux wood panels so this car was a [1957 Country Sedan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Country_Sedan#).

The plot thickens… 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/10 "2016-01-06T12:41:10Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> The Squire trim was faux wood panels so this car was a [1957 Country Sedan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Country_Sedan#).

I never would have figured that out - what a bizarre name for a wagon.

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**Author:** ![SanDiegoTim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@SanDiegoTim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanDiegoTim)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/11 "2016-01-06T13:24:43Z")

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jags is correct. It’s a Country Sedan.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/12 "2016-01-06T15:07:38Z")

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Thank you very much, everyone who dug into this and found the answers, including the date of the event. I’ve amassed a very large number of archival photos like this which I’ve been scanning, and many of them have little to no description of the subject, nor a date.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/13 "2016-01-06T21:02:08Z")

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OTOH, I instantly recognized the woman as Christine Jorgensen, which the file name confirmed.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/14 "2016-01-06T21:40:11Z")

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You people scare me sometimes in the most pleasant ways…

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/15 "2016-01-08T00:41:58Z")

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> [@SanDiegoTim](#):
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> jags is correct. It’s a Country Sedan.

ah yes, back then they called it Sedan, but it is what we now call Station wagon (and some call estate).

Yeah we had an advert here a while back teaching us about how a Squire got its nickname Woodie… the first were real wood but most built were fake wood , examples now may now be reverted to actual wood due to difficulty maintaining faux wood .

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/16 "2016-01-08T00:53:20Z")

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Little known fact.

1957 is one of the few years Ford outsold Chevrolet.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/17 "2016-01-08T03:27:38Z")

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> [@Isilder](#):
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> difficulty maintaining faux wood .

Ah, the difficulties we faced prior to Viagra.

I’m also amused that Christine Jorgensen still had a woody in the late 1950s. Wasn’t that the whole point of the procedure?

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/18 "2016-01-08T23:12:01Z")

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Without reading the other responses, it’s a '57 Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, possibly a '58. I owned a '57 Fairlane 500 Hardtop while commuting to college.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/19 "2016-01-09T02:42:26Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Ah, the difficulties we faced prior to Viagra.
> 
> I’m also amused that Christine Jorgensen still had a woody in the late 1950s. Wasn’t that the whole point of the procedure?

Only the old folks got that one. I did.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/car-dopers-can-you-id-the-car-in-this-old-photograph/742286/20 "2016-01-09T02:44:26Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Ah, the difficulties we faced prior to Viagra.
> 
> I’m also amused that Christine Jorgensen still had a woody in the late 1950s. Wasn’t that the whole point of the procedure?

Well, the conclusion that it must be a Country _Sedan_ and not a Country Squire was based on the fact that the Squire had wood, and the car in the photo does not.  
So she didn’t have a woody.

(Yes, I get your pun. It still works even with my correction.)  
(Please excuse this brief interlude of juvenile wordplay.)

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