I always understood a sun roof to be an opaque opening, that looks just like the roof, whereas a moon roof was a translucent opening (usually with a slider to block the sun if you want it) that also opens.
Looking at this I can’t believe it’s even real. It reads like a dystopian parody of a car. Black Mirror shit.
Actually, the definitions seem to be fairly identical from what I can gather online. I always assumed that one was immovable and the other could be slid open or tilted. Doesn’t matter; they’re both useless to me.
If you want to cool a hot car interior quickly do this (advice from an actual physicist…a bit more than a minute long):
This particular alarm feature kept bothering me and a cousin on a recent road trip. It was a rented car and neither one of us could understand why we were getting the Consider taking a Coffee Break alert every 10 minutes!
Nor did we have the time to figure out how to change the settings.
It was extremely annoying and did not seem to be related to anything except the passing of time on the highway.
Some days it was considerably worse than others. There were even days when it didn’t go off at all.
And every so often there was a red half circle warning that would come up around the back wheels on an alert screen. We stopped to check tire pressures which were fine. Never could figure that one out. Just ignored it.
That would be annoying. As I stated, mine is pretty accurate and only goes off when I’m actually getting sleepy.
ETA: I’d rather not have this feature at all, though. I can figure out for myself when I need a break.
Also for @FairyChatMom …
If the sleepy alarm is going off frequently, that suggests the driver is actually spending very little time paying attention to the road. Or has a habit of driving staring straight ahead. In any case the camera watching their eyes is seeing what looks like being zoned out. Or they’re sloppy & late with their lane-keeping.
It’d be interesting to have both drivers try driving the car over the same route in similar circumstances (day vs night, crowded vs not, etc.) to compare the nag level between them.
For sure Hyundai might have screwed up and made it too sensitive for the e.g. outlier 10% of drivers. if so I’d expect to see lots of internet posts about that. I haven’t looked.
But if Hyundai isn’t internet-famous for their overly naggy sleepy alerts, and you find that different drivers trigger different alarm behaviors, then the problem is in the driver’s behavior, whether they’re sleepy or not.
Zoned-out driving is a problem in folks who’re slowly becoming cognitively impaired. Like all of us gray hairs.
That’s why there’s a “max cool” and a “max defrost” button. Don’t fiddle with the temperature or air direction settings you’ve carefully arranged to make you happy in the normal case. Just hit the appropriate override button then cancel the override however many minutes later the need has passed.
I had a rental car for a cross country (work) trip. It was a Nissan Rogue. I loved the blind spot warning feature on the mirrors, but it had some of the “don’t understand” features as well.
Active cruise control. Not that I don’t understand the concept (the car maintains a set distance from the car in front) but that I was scared to use it. I had never had a car with that, and I couldn’t be sure that I would set it properly. Bad time to find out you didn’t set it right when you rear end the guy in front! I think I’d need a day long course at the learning annex on how to use it. And (being of a certain age) I still don’t trust it!
The same applies to the car’s lane-keeping feature. I had to make time, and never had a chance to read the manual. So I just used old skool cruise control, and kept the car in the lane the old fashioned way.
One feature I didn’t know the car had bugged me for half the trip. I was worried about my luggage in the back, so I kept checking that the hatch was locked. And every time I checked, it wasn’t! made me angry and worried. I’d lock it, hear the chuck sound, go away, come back, and it was unlocked! WTF? Turns out there is a “feature” that unlocks the doors if the key fob is close.
I am a year into my first car with a screen (as well as cameras that make the car respond in various ways to the environment). I have a lot of complaints about it, but the thing that makes the least amount of sense is the “safety agreement” screen that pops up and asks me to push the “I agree” button before giving me access to any of the operations on the touch screen. And sometimes the “button” press does not register because the car is slow to boot up, or the temperature has the screen being unresponsive. It does go away after some number of seconds.
This screen serves no function nor does it drive any behavior. It just makes it harder to use the car. I spent 30 years being trusted to operate my radio or heating system, and now I have to click through a “danger” warning before the car allows me to access those features? Every time I start the car?
Why are we even talking about buttons and knobs with the voice recognition software we have today? “(Nickname of car), make it 5 degrees warmer.”
There are lots of places I have transported six people without any luggage - baseball games ( professional and little league) , carpooling to some sort of family event, a beer run while on a family reunion weekend and so on. Maybe my SUV has slightly larger third row seats than usual, or maybe it’s just because my family is on the short side, but it seats 8 people and it’s fine for a short ride. I don’t do it very often, so it’s usually two rows and luggage space, but the third row comes in handy.
As for why not get a minivan ? After almost 20 years , I was tired of them. Plus, with three seats in a regular Caravan, there wasn’t much luggage space either. And the longer version ( which I had) was more difficult to find parking for than my SUVs because the SUVs are shorter.
Got it, playing music from 98 degrees.
Got it, calling Meg Reese.
Got it, routing to number 5 Desiree Street.
I’ve never had good luck with voice activation, and I have a very plain “newscaster” American accent. Particularly in a car with other people, “everyone shut up, I need to turn on the rear defrost!”
Having experienced several different cars with screens, some are much, much worse than others. Laggy response and poorly laid out interfaces make the screen so much worse than it has to be.
No screen is ever going to be as easy to use as a simple button or dial that does exactly what you want. It is really on the manufacturer to do some ergonomic studies and thoughtful design to make frequently adjusted things easy to use, and then bury rarely used toggles in a comprehensible settings menu.
I remember when the first cars advertised moon roofs. Definitely glass windows. The standard sun roof is metal or fabric.
The only cars I notice with Alcantara are Porsche and they make a big deal out of it.
Same here. I’ve tried but it is such a weird and forced interaction that it is mostly just annoying.. I much, much prefer a knob or button.
I look forward to the day where I can just speak and the USS Enterprise computer figures it all out and responds appropriately. Till then, give me knobs and buttons.
I absolutely prefer knobs or buttons. I am looking for a new car that has them. Toyota Corolla and Camry seem to be functional in that regard.
A couple of tips (I did a lot of voice to speech work previously) - to your ears, you speak clearly, to a machine you speak a continuous run on. Speak each work distinctly, and overenunciate a bit and aim your head in the direction of the mic (just above my head in my car).
Granted - that means it does BETTER, not great, and it’s a work in progress. I think it’s a highly meh compromise between not taking one’s eyes off the road and having a bunch of “expensive” (from the manufacture’s POV) dials on the car, and creates a huge failure point as well.
I also find if you’re using Android Auto or other system that has a better “learning” mode for your voice, that it works better than the car’s build-in software which is often extra crappy, but YMMV.
I’d suggest (based on nothing aside from my personal discomfort) that it’s more of a distraction to mentally navigate talking “just so” and then trying again when what you need doesn’t work (and maybe looking at the display anyway to get visual feedback) than it is to use sense memory and a brief glance to accomplish the same task in less than 1/10th the amount of time. I think it’s not a “meh” compromise, it’s 100% a less functional, less useful, less safe, and more expensive implementation of the legacy analog interface that only exists for marketing reasons (some of which is driven by consumers I’ll grant).
You might want to give it a try. It is great in certain traffic. No dager of rear-ending anyone. The only thing it means is that if you approach a car going slower than you have your cruise set, your car will slow down. And you can set the number of car lengths you stay behind anyone. You don’t have to brake and then press resume when you clear the slower driver.
The only “issue” is if you are not paying attention, you may not notice you have slowed behind a slower driver. Say you set cruise at 75. You are just driving along and didn’t realize you came behind someone gong 70 - or 65. Your car slows down to the other car’s speed. Not a big deal, but you might prefer passing the slower car and continuing at 75.