# Card Game Called

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 6, 2000, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334 "2000-08-06T16:48:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/1 "2000-08-06T16:48:30Z")

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Has anyone else ever heard of this?

My father makes us play this game whenever we visit. [It’s a trump game - five cards to a hand - bid on tricks, highest bidder calls trump.] At first I hated it, but it is quite infectious once you get to playing it. He lives in a rather remote section of Maine, and I was under the impression that this game was regional in nature. It has many, how can I put this politely, weird rules, which I attributed to the area (insert backwoods-french-canadian/acadian-potato-farmer joke here).

If you haven’t heard of it and you’d like me to explain the rules, I will if I must, but I don’t guarantee anyone will grasp it. It’s the kind of game that really has to be experienced to learn.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/2 "2000-08-06T16:51:25Z")

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The game in question is … 45 …  
I don’t know why that didn’t show up in the subject.

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**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/3 "2000-08-06T18:41:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
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> I don’t know why that didn’t show up in the subject. \*\*

You probably put it in quotation marks (""). For some reason the board software doesn’t like that.

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**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/4 "2000-08-06T18:45:20Z")

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Sounds a lot like euchre, which is still a big game in Michigan.  
Can’t say that I’ve heard of 45 before, though.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/5 "2000-08-06T20:21:25Z")

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I haven’t heard of this before, but it is listed in my _Official Rules for Card Games - 53rd Edition_ (© The United States Playing Card Company, 1963). Anything in particular you want to know?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/6 "2000-08-06T20:56:48Z")

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Well, I wasn’t looking for anything more cosmic than, who else has ever played it. And if so, do you live near San Francisco and want to play sometime?  
Other than that, if there any card junkies who are looking for a new game to play, I’d love to be the carrier for the 45 virus, as it were.

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> _Gunslinger said_
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> **You probably put it in quotation marks (""). For some reason the board  
> software doesn’t like that**

That’s exactly what I did. Thanks for the tip.

So anybody want me to attempt to explain the rules. I’ve got time to kill today.

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2000, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/7 "2000-08-06T23:57:08Z")

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Sounds interesting, but I prefer “swedish asshole.”

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**Author:** ![Show\_Biz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Show\_Biz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Show_Biz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2000, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/8 "2000-08-07T05:32:18Z")

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[hijack]  
The **"** problem is in the Preview. If you don’t preview, you can get " into the subject line.  
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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2000, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/card-game-called/28334/9 "2000-08-08T05:12:06Z")

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hi, jack

Actually, this is on topic, I’m just saying hi to Jack and thanks for the compliment from another thread.

My “Play According to Hoyle” book lists each game by major section, and sure, enough, under ‘Triumph’, (the same section that has the American game Euchre), it lists the following :

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> Auction Forty-Fives
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> This game developed from the Irish game Spoil Five and its variant FORTY-FIVE (see below), so called because 45 points win the game . . . This game is popular in Canada and especially in Nova Scotia.

The rules indicate that in the ‘original’ Forty-Five, there’s no bidding, simply scoring by taking 3 of 4 or 5 tricks; holders of the highest three trumps can renege (not be forced to play) at any point, thus the 5 (highest trump) can never be forced.

Now, although Hoyle gives rules for some particular game, it may not be exactly the game you call it, since they vary a lot. But I’d guess it’s similar; here’s a few of the rules :

highest trump is fivespot; second is jack; third is the A-Hearts. In black suits, cards from two-ten rank in reverse order.

other variations allow the dealer to ‘rob the pack’, look through the deck to replace his discards.

panama jack

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(I hate to say it, but my name’s not Jack. I’m not even Australian.)
