# Care to flesh that out, Bosda?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664 "2002-05-07T04:21:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/1 "2002-05-07T04:21:21Z")

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In [this now-closed thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=113633), **Bosda** stupidly opines:

> [@](#):
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> If it becomes a problem, just exile the shooters to New York City, or L.A. Not only will nobody notice them amidst all the other loons, but the towns are punishment enough in and of themselves.

**Bosda** , you seriously need some ignorance eradication.

First things first. I’ll allow the good citizens of Los Angeles to opine for themselves. Here in New York, we “loons” are keenly aware of and quick to notice murders for political purposes. See, it happened here recently. If you’re unaware of it, I can provide a link.

Perhaps you are referring to our _other_, non-political, crime rate. You are factually incorrect – more ingorance to be eradicated. See, here’s the thing. Absent the ~3000 folks murdered in the service of a political point, we’re probably safer than your town, doubtless a good place embarassed solely by your association with it.

To sum up, if you are in a logging town, fuck you with a chainsaw. If in a fishing town, fuck you with a live pollock. A steel town? Fuck you with a freshly-extruded I-beam. A university town? Well, you get the point. Fuck you with something unpleasant to get fucked with.

You are shit. Asshole.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/2 "2002-05-07T04:41:12Z")

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Sarcasm Detector failed again, huh, Manny? 😃 Gotta keep it on the charger, dude, when you’re not on the Boards…

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**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/3 "2002-05-07T04:42:49Z")

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Manny,

And this is the first time someone has maligned the good name of Gotham?

Taking a cheap shot at the Big City ain’t exactly droll commentary, but I’d think a big city sophisticate like yourself would be used to it by now.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/4 "2002-05-07T04:45:05Z")

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Manhatten, don’t you think you’re being a wee bit precious about this? Now, not being too obsessed with previous postings (so, not sure if this is a pet-stereotype of Bosda’s), his comment seemed to me to be somewhat tongue-on-cheek. Thus your reaction strikes me as being a tad over-the-top.

Care to expand upon your ire??

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/5 "2002-05-07T04:46:45Z")

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Oh, we’re used to it. But he’s too far away to see our traditional salute, or even hear our traditional cheer.

So this has to suffice in a pinch.

And on that note, my pillow and I have a hot date, so I’m outta here.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/6 "2002-05-07T04:47:05Z")

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Besides, everyone knows that there are laws against murder in LA, so that means there isn’t any.

I don’t know about New York, though. Maybe they only have _strong suggestions_ against murder?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Great\_Dave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Dave)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/7 "2002-05-07T04:53:32Z")

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So, anytime someone takes a cheapshot, and someone else responds to it, the responder is the immature one? Maybe if the response is off the wall, but I think Manny did a decent job of it. Except that last bit. This is the pit, so swearing and insulting are expected, so make it good.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/8 "2002-05-07T10:26:25Z")

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As the mods have explained again and again, the Pit is not about swearing and insulting, but about passion. Here, one may argue one’s point with a greater intensity than one may in other fora. Perhaps you were absent the first time, or even the twentieth time this was explained. Perhaps you have seen the explanation, but lacked the comprehension skills necessary to sublimate the knowledge. Or maybe you simply lack the social skills and maturity necessary to grasp any exposition of an ethical imperative more complex than “shut up!” Or could it be that you know what you’re doing and just want to troll? Maybe it’s your manifest obsession in life to twist instructions of moderators in a vain attempt to confuse everyone else. Hell, I dunno. Maybe you’re some sort of shit eating little prepubescent brat who wants to play like a grownup on his computer while mommy’s not watching. Maybe you’re smearing your feces on the screen right now, giggling and chanting, “Look at the fucking stupid people eating my shit!” :eek: Maybe you have a fucking **hole in your head.** Maybe you’re just some old ass licking fop, looking to get your jollies by CRAWLING UP OUR COLLECTIVE RECTUMS and PLANTING ENEMAS MADE OF WORDS. ☹ THE PIT IS NOT ABOUT CURSING AND INSULTS, YOU IGNORANT SHIT SUCKING BAG OF VOMIT! :mad: **WHY DON’T YOU STOP WEARING YOUR DICK ON YOUR SHOULDERS AND WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!** The Pit is about passion.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/9 "2002-05-07T11:07:25Z")

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More tea Vicar?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/10 "2002-05-07T12:02:04Z")

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Or, maybe I just hate big cities with a passion; having lived in several, & finding them all intolerable and unfit for human inhabitation. The larger, the worse.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/11 "2002-05-07T12:05:13Z")

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And that justifies a shitty cheap-shot…?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/12 "2002-05-07T12:55:38Z")

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> Fuck you with something unpleasant to get fucked with.

C’mon, **manhattan** , I’m sittin’ right here. Why did you need to bring me into the middle of this?

😃

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/13 "2002-05-07T13:11:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor \*  
> \*\*Or, maybe I just hate big cities with a passion; having lived in several, & finding them all intolerable and unfit for human inhabitation. The larger, the worse. \*\*

And what conclusion do we usually reach about people who draw conclusions based solely on personal observations and a small sample size?

C’mon, **Bosda**. You post your town’s crime stats per capita, and I’ll post mine.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/14 "2002-05-07T13:20:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KneadToKnow \*  
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> C’mon, **manhattan** , I’m sittin’ right here. Why did you need to bring me into the middle of this?
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> 😃 \*\*

ROFL! I almost went with the self-deprecating remark there, but passed for fear the Pitizens would lower my score.

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**Author:** ![Spritle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Spritle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spritle)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/15 "2002-05-07T13:55:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor \*  
> Or, maybe I just hate big cities with a passion; having lived in several, & finding them all intolerable and **unfit for human inhabitation. The larger** , the worse.

Um… aren’t they larger because they have more inhabitants? The more human habitants they have the less fit for human habitation? (and here I’m simply assuming that your “human inhabitation” was just a typo.)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/16 "2002-05-07T14:08:26Z")

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OK, Jack. Here it is.  
Can’t give a link, because the local paper’s site is subscription-only. Here’s some data–

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> Decrease in crime rate shows battle can be won  
> DNJ
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> The Murfreesboro Police Department is proud to report that crime in 1999 was down by 9 percent, even though the city’s population continues to climb.
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> * * *
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> A strong economy and low unemployment are also vital to keeping the potential for crime at a minimum.
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> By the numbers:
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> • Homicides slid 33 percent last year with just two incidents reported;
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> • Assaults fell 14 percent in 1999 from 1998, with 2,187 cases reported;
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> • Burglaries were down 20 percent with 373 cases reported;
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> • And motor vehicle thefts fell 10 percent with 250 cases reported.
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> There was a slight increase in the number of thefts, 2,614, up 5 percent over 1998’s numbers.
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> Slight increases were also reported in rapes, robberies and arson calls.
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> Patrol officers and investigators worked well together under the Community Oriented Policing Services program to prevent crime. During Christmas, patrol officers and investigators beefed up patrols around motels, hotels and shopping centers to prevent robberies, burglaries and thefts.
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> But with each new home built in Murfreesboro and with each new business, the department’s ability to combat crime is lessened somewhat. It’s a numbers game that is increasingly difficult to win.
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> The police department offers several crime prevention services such as armed robbery seminars and Neighborhood Watch.
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> “Citizens themselves are responsible,” Police Lt. Clyde Adkison said.
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\*s indicated paragraphs remove to prevent copyright infringement.  
OK **Manny**. You try. For the same year, please.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/17 "2002-05-07T14:31:49Z")

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Well, what’s the population of Murfreesboro? I mean, knowing there were 2,187 cases of assault isn’t that useful unless we know how many people have the potential of being assaulted…🙂

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/18 "2002-05-07T15:16:54Z")

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whew. At least he didn’t mention chicago.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/19 "2002-05-07T15:24:56Z")

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Murfreesboro, 68,816

As per 2001.  
Jeeves couldn’t find the '99 figures.  
This does not include suburbs.  
Message for the easily confused or ethically challenged– **I am not claiming that Murfreesboro is a major city.**

My critics are mere ultra-monkeys, unfit to cling to the hem of my garb.

PS–I was _born in_ Chicago.

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/care-to-flesh-that-out-bosda/107664/20 "2002-05-07T15:42:48Z")

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jesus christ, manny. why must you take a shot against new york so personally? bad day at the office? looks like youre just spoiling for a fight. go pick on december, or the ryan, or somebody like that.

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