# Carly Fiorina announces presidential campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231 "2015-05-04T12:16:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/141 "2015-10-14T20:41:23Z")
> [@Phu\_Cat](#): > > \*If you think us liberals all are going to vote for Hillary (assuming she wins the nomination) because we love her, you’re just deluded. Most of us liberals will vote for Hillary because the Republican alternative will be so, so much worse for America. > \* > > Liberals always try to forget one little thing. Nearly every major problem this country has today is an outgrowth of one liberal policy or another. > > Why is crime so high? Liberals pushed the idea that perps had a bad childhood or various other reasons they weren’t responsible for their actions. > > Teenage pregnancy? Instead of teaching children abstinence they preferred to give them condoms as well as music and movies that glorified it. > > Drugs? Movies and music encouraged drug too. > > Profanity? Yep, movies, print media, and especially music!. > > Disrespect for the law. Same as above. > > And now we have young people wanting to take their anger out on other people they may not even know. Possibly because of the violent video games they’ve played for numerous years that many of us tried to get outlawed because of the affect it might have on those children. > > Oh yeah, the opposite of liberalism, conservatism, the ideas that would have directed the above ideas in a healthy direction were all bad, you say. The real problem is liberals exaggerate whatever solutions conservatives have, twisting them into something we never intended them to be. Liberals like to “think outside the box”. That can be a good idea but isn’t automatically right. Maybe it’s a good idea, but not all the time. Remember new math? That didn’t work. There are tons more ideas like that. Just because some liberal comes up with a new idea doesn’t mean it’s great or that a conservative’s new idea is bad or that Fiorina would go belly up just because she’s a conservative. She certainly has more experience than oBAMA and couldn’t do any worse than he has. I’m willing to bet she’d at least listen to her top generals when they give her war advice more than oBAMA has. > > I know it’s gotta be tough being a liberal. > > Phu Cat [Crime rate down](http://www.wanttoknow.info/g/violent_crime_rates_reduction) [Teen Pregnancy down](http://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-health-topics/reproductive-health/teen-pregnancy/trends.html) Drug use, relatively flat Profanity, not an issue Disrespect for the law, not sure what that even means. We’ve got good job numbers, a growing economy, and expanded health care. I’ve never been so happy to call myself a liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/142 "2015-10-14T20:52:04Z")
> [@Phu\_Cat](#): > > Drugs? Movies and music encouraged drug too. 😕 Movies and music are a liberal policy? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/143 "2015-10-14T21:07:00Z")
Don’t forget the depravity caused by dancing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/144 "2015-10-14T21:11:52Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > 😕 Movies and music are a liberal policy? Even conservatives sing [drug songs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tdmaEhMHE). ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/145 "2015-10-14T21:22:42Z")
Who can I blame for $50 ink cartridges? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/146 "2015-10-14T22:11:45Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > This article seems a little misleading to me. So, her foundation is part of a network that gave almost half a mil to PP. I don’t think it can be pinned on her as easily as this article is trying to insinuate. But maybe the mere mention of PP in the same breath with any GOP candidate will be enough to disqualify her/him in the minds of the avg GOP primary voter. I don’t think the article is misleading exactly. It makes it clear that it isn’t Fiorna directly giving to PP. even the headline stresses that its her foundation directed by another group. Beyond that, the article is a little confusing as to who exactly is doing what. But the situation itself seems confusing, so I’m not sure thats the articles fault. Fiorna is the chairman of the Fiorna Foundation, which isn’t a Foundation and has no chairperson. She claims to direct the spending, but it appears that a separate foundation just uses her “foundation” to draw funds from and distribute themselves. Which is fine, but than why lie about it? If Fiorna wants to claim she gives out money herself, why not just do that (or have an underling do it) rather than give it to a separate group and then tell a rather pointless lie. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/147 "2015-10-14T22:47:11Z")
> [@Phu\_Cat](#): > > I know it’s gotta be tough being a liberal. > > Phu Cat It’s tougher being a conservative, and I know, having used to be one. You have to stop thinking. You have to ignore unpleasant facts. You have to tolerate racists and religious fanatics. Hope you didn’t sell stock at the end of 2008 when your conservative friend Mr. Bush and his buddies was in the middle of destroying the economy. Of course, now that the extremists are calling Paul Ryan a liberal, criticism of at least some liberals might be called for. ---
**Author:** ![Phu\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Phu\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phu_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/148 "2015-11-23T20:30:52Z")
\*Drug use, relatively flat Profanity, not an issue Disrespect for the law, not sure what that even means. We’ve got good job numbers, a growing economy, and expanded health care. I’ve never been so happy to call myself a liberal.\* Please, you can’t be serious about any of that! Drug use flat? You’ve got to be kidding me!!! It goes up every day and shows no sign of slowing down. Profanity is not an issue? Of course not. Because you don’t think it means any thing. Except it’s just another indicator of the direction our country is going, which is DOWN! And you don’t know what disrespect for the law means? Spoken like a true liberal that only wants to see evil become normal. I once used to tell people we are slowly but surely being programmed to accept mediocrity. Unfortunately, we have progressed well beyond that. Liberals have taught their young that right is wrong and the principles this country was founded on are outdated. I for one did not fight for your freedom to have you vote mine away. (Saw that on a T-shirt.) THAT’S why I will forever support and defend the 2nd amendment. But that’s another issue for another time. Phu Cat ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/149 "2015-11-23T20:53:22Z")
> [@Phu\_Cat](#): > > I for one did not fight for your freedom to have you vote mine away. (Saw that on a T-shirt.) THAT’S why I will forever support and defend the 2nd amendment. Sounds to me like you’re the one trying to take away people’s freedom. Can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t curse. Who are you, my great-aunt Muriel? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/150 "2015-11-24T04:10:16Z")
Oh, jeez, is Muriel a Doper now? There goes the neighborhood… ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/151 "2015-11-24T04:46:36Z")
In fairness to **Phu Cat** , his/her comment > [@Phu\_Cat](#): > > I once used to tell people we are slowly but surely being programmed to accept mediocrity. Unfortunately, we have progressed well beyond that. is amply supported by the current crop of Republican candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/152 "2015-11-24T20:54:11Z")
It is a remarkably dire bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Phu\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Phu\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phu_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/153 "2015-11-24T22:29:22Z")
Inner sticker, Did you not read Procrustus post? Just trying to understand his irrational explanations of what I said. But that’s what libs usually do. If they can’t deny your wisdom with logic they’ll use twisted bs or some other malarkey. I would tell you not to drink or smoke, only that it’s bad for your health. From there it’s up to you. My best bud is a very heavy smoker, but I don’t say anything to him about it to him and we’re together just about every day. He also has a foul mouth. The only thing I do is remind him from time to time about using the Lord’s name in vein so often and he he actually does remembers that. Until a couple months later I remind him again, and he always says: “Oh yeah, been doing that too much , haven’t I”. Phu Cat ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/154 "2015-11-24T22:53:09Z")
**Phu Cat** , given your concern about drug use, does it trouble you that your friend is shooting up? I mean, how else does he use the Lord’s name _in vein?_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/155 "2016-01-02T03:11:22Z")
[Stanford grad Carly panders in the most transparent way possible.](http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/1/1/10699128/carly-fiorina-iowa-stanford-rose-bowl-primary?ref=yfp) > [@](#): > > Tweeted by Carly: > > ``` > Love my alma mater, but rooting for a Hawkeyes win today. #RoseBowl > — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) January 1, 2016 > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/156 "2016-01-02T03:47:53Z")
Does that kind of attempted pandering ever work? Isn’t that the opposite of what people who care about sports like to see in candidates? When Obama throws out a ball at Nationals Park, he wears his White Sox cap. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/157 "2016-01-02T04:02:54Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Does that kind of attempted pandering ever work? Isn’t that the opposite of what people who care about sports like to see in candidates? > > When Obama throws out a ball at Nationals Park, he wears his White Sox cap. Exactly. Sports fans appreciate loyal sports fans. She would have done better to compliment the Iowa trees and leave the football alone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/158 "2016-01-02T15:04:45Z")
ISTM we can learn just about all we need to know about Fiorina’s campaign by the fact that 5 weeks plus 3 days went by between post #154 before Thanksgiving & #155 yesterday. That much time during this phase of the campaign with no news-bite worthy of comment by the SDMB punditocracy is damning to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/159 "2016-01-02T15:24:35Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > ISTM we can learn just about all we need to know about Fiorina’s campaign by the fact that 5 weeks plus 3 days went by between post #154 before Thanksgiving & #155 yesterday. > > That much time during this phase of the campaign with no news-bite worthy of comment by the SDMB punditocracy is damning to say the least. Yeah, and seeing this thread pop just now gave me hope that she made news by dropping out of the race. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231/160 "2016-01-03T19:08:09Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Stanford grad Carly panders in the most transparent way possible.](http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/1/1/10699128/carly-fiorina-iowa-stanford-rose-bowl-primary?ref=yfp) [She claims it was a joke.](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264613-fiorina-defends-tongue-in-cheek-rose-bowl-tweet) > [@](#): > > The Republican presidential hopeful said a tweet expressing her support for the Hawkeyes was “tongue-in-cheek.” > > “Can’t a girl have a little fun?” Fiorina asked on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “That was a tongue-in-cheek tweet, which the people of Iowa understand, because I was asked over and over again in Iowa, having attended a Hawkeye tailgate.” Koufax would have thrown a no-hitter every time out with that much spin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carly-fiorina-announces-presidential-campaign/719231.md?page=9)