# Carmen Miranda's Ghost Was Banned From Argo!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 4, 2005, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545 "2005-08-04T12:23:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/1 "2005-08-04T12:23:52Z")

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Are there any other friends of filk music out there? I like listening to Leslie Fish, Michael Longcor and Meg Davis, and usually go the midnight filk circles at the science fiction conventions I attend. For those not in the know, btw, filk can be explained [here.](http://www.filk.com)

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/2 "2005-08-04T13:14:38Z")

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I was at Balticon, and I passed by a movie screen showing [Star Trekkin](http://home.wanadoo.nl/~sytze/sttrekkin/)(by The Firm). Then I stayed and watched the anime series **Dual**.

Sorry, I can’t say I have had more experience than that. ☹ But there is still time for me to learn about it, and see some at a later convention.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/3 "2005-08-04T13:19:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Are there any other friends of filk music out there? I like listening to Leslie Fish, Michael Longcor and Meg Davis, and usually go the midnight filk circles at the science fiction conventions I attend. For those not in the know, btw, filk can be explained [here.](http://www.filk.com)

I’m one of the people who organizes the DC iteration of the Floating Northeast Filk Convention (which has cycled through Boston/NYC/DC areas for the last decade or so).

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/4 "2005-08-04T13:19:25Z")

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I’ve got a decent enough collection of stuff from the 80s and early 90s. My problem is always that so much of it is in the fantasy mold when I’d prefer more space opera stuff.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/5 "2005-08-05T02:34:13Z")

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> [@Steve MB](#):
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> I’m one of the people who organizes the DC iteration of the Floating Northeast Filk Convention (which has cycled through Boston/NYC/DC areas for the last decade or so).

So who floats through your filk circles nowadays?

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**Author:** ![Ava\_Gina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Ava\_Gina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ava_Gina)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/6 "2005-08-05T02:49:33Z")

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Just what is Filk?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/7 "2005-08-05T03:24:06Z")

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> [@Ava Gina](#):
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> Just what is Filk?

Folk songs that have a lot of science fiction references and such.

Performed, essentially, by hippie geeks.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/8 "2005-08-06T18:22:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> So who floats through your filk circles nowadays?

It’s been a while since we organized something locally; the people who usually host local house gatherings are in the middle of moves/renovations, and the next convention in the DC area is in 2007.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/9 "2005-08-06T18:36:18Z")

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> [@Scott Plaid](#):
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> I was at Balticon, and I passed by a movie screen showing [Star Trekkin](http://home.wanadoo.nl/~sytze/sttrekkin/)(by The Firm). .

Thanks for the link, **Scott**! That was delightful.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carmen-mirandas-ghost-was-banned-from-argo/315545/10 "2005-08-06T19:21:42Z")

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Well, I recognized both references in the title, and have actually perpetrated the stuff in college. I also own a copy of the short story collection _Carmen Miranda’s Ghost Is Haunting Space Station 3_. Finally, I have committed filk with two, count 'em _two_ science fiction writers at an SF con. One of them was Sarah Zettel, and the other was that SF writer I refer to so much around here I won’t name him. Yeah, I guess I qualify as a filk fan.

The thing is, though, I’m a purist. Our last SF con, a couple of weeks ago had way too much formal filking going on during daylight, no less! :eek: I prefer the informal kind laced with obscure puns and in jokes done. Filkers, like vampires, should not appear until after dark and should vanish with the first light of dawn.

Now, I’m off. You see, I’ve got to go host the birthday party of the SF writer (and former Doper!) I declined to name earlier.

CJ
