TY. Quite the reasonable response. Politis aside – if possible – I feel the same way. And my son and nephew, first time voters, are on the same boat.
Although I’ll freely admit my pinko-commie tendencies and my willingness to spout them (aka, European Social Democrat) have had a tiny bit of influence in their choice. 
Hope so. The sooner the better. Like I said, whole lot of ignorance out there. Specially from what I saw in Florida last week…which may be the outlier and not the norm. Or I sure hope so.
Mebbeso. JFK was a son of wealth and privilege; Lincoln was not, and neither is Obama.
I just look at his voting record. I will take a womanizing drunk over a hypocrite any day and Sunday.
The Kennedy endorsements are significant and indicate support of the establishment. It will particularly impact older Democratic voters who are reluctant to step outside of their comfort zone. And, as already mentioned, Toni Morrison’s endorsement will only help Senator Obama.
I will be extremely surprised if HRC wins the nomination.
Lemme clue you in: In America, Florida is typical of nothing. There’s the pre-WWII Cracker families and African-Americans; and the far more numerous Yankee immigrants who flooded the state after electricity and air conditioning became widely available; and the Cubans and other Latinos (when I lived in Miami-Dade County – 55% Latino – there seemed to be a lot more Mexicans than Cubans around, not to mention the Haitians); and of course the vast number of retirees from all over the country. A very weird, schizo state culturally, and it’s not surprising that it’s a “purple state” politically.
I just look at his voting record. I will take a womanizing drunk over a hypocrite any day and Sunday.
The Kennedy endorsements are significant and indicate support of the establishment. It will particularly impact older Democratic voters who are reluctant to step outside of their comfort zone. And, as already mentioned, Toni Morrison’s endorsement will only help Senator Obama.
I will be extremely surprised if HRC wins the nomination.
Well, you can (like Jefferson and Ben Franklin) believe in that sort of thing without believing in Christ as the son of God and redeemer of humanity’s sins.
I am sure this is where the Republicans will focus their criticism. The swift boaters are probably working diligently at this very moment. All the time and money spent to take down HRC will now be shifted.
I’ve taken note that the conservative pundits are already spinning the JFK comparison as inaccurate because JFK was actually a conservative/centrist, incase anyone on the board didn’t know. Obama is much more liberal than Kennedy. sigh
I am always impressed with the radical right’s ability to rewrite history.
Especially if McCain gets the nod – nobody can call him “inexperienced.”
Wow! Mike Shanahan, Hillary Clinton, and me. LOL!
BTW, I stole the “9u11ani” reference from the Daily Kos.
A nitpick from an earlier post: LBJ rose to the post of Senate Majority Leader, but while in the House never became Speaker. He was a protege of Speaker Sam Rayburn, though.
As to JFK’s effectiveness in getting his program passed - I remember a Congressional Quarterly analysis from the mid-1980s that actually put him in the upper third of Presidents in terms of the bills on which his administration had taken a position. His record on Capitol Hill from 1961-63 was respectable, but yes, LBJ got a lot more stuff through from 1963-69, initially because of the “Let us continue” vibe after Dallas and his own mastery of the legislative process.
I would love to see what happens if Hillary or McCain pick up on that meme.
I notice the use of the phrase “former President” to carve out Bush jr.
Is Bush a better President than Carter was?
The Bush tax cuts reduced everyone’s tax bill at the expense of HUGE budget deficits. Those deficits translate into huge national debt which translates into huge interest payments going forward. While those tax cuts reduced taxes for everyone, they reduced taxes for the ultra rich a LOT more than they did for anyone else.
The top marginal rate has been as high as 92%. The Bush tax cut reduced the top marginal tax rate from 39.6% to 35% (and a significant reduction in investment income tax, which is what people mean when they talk about tax cuts for the rich). How the heck do you figure that the cut in the marginal tax rate from 39.6% to 35% had more economic impact than the redutcion from 92% to 28% by JFK and Reagan?
There may be a disincentive effect when the marginal tax rate is 92%, I doubt there is any marginal difference between productivity between a 39.6 top marginal tax rate and 35%.
Talking out of his ass nis a bit extreme. JFK was our youngest elected President and that gets shorthanded to “our youngest president” And being the youngest elected Preident is an accomplishment (not a particularly notable on in my mind, but you are quibbling).
I think JFK was one of the minor presidents. He achieved very little, and his accomplishments were mostly failures. The “Bay of Pigs” was a good example-he went ahead with the CIA invasion, yet baqcked away from supporting the Cuban freedom fighters. The end result: Castro was firmly established as a dictator for life-and we betrayed hundreds of anti-Castro Cubans. The same with the Cuban Missile crisis-Kennedy almost launched WWIII.
Vietnam is another enigma-while JFK fans insist he wanted out of Vietnam, he actually did a lot to insure our getting mired there-he encouraged the coup against Diem, and backed the thugs who took over the government.
Morally, the man was rotten-he carried on sexual affairs with two White House whores/secretaries (“Fiddle and Faddle”), and indulged in an extramarital affair in Italy-while his wife was in childbirth (the baby was stillborn). Pretty admirable guy!
Here’s the ad resulting from Caroline’s endorsement:
Kennedy stopped WWIII. Thank Og Nixon wasn’t in his seat at that time.
Well, you are certainly describing things for which he is admired. (By guys, anyway. No, heck, not just by guys, it’s just only the guys who’ll admit it.)
LeMay and others (on the US side. The majority of blame lies with the Cubans and Russians) almost started WWIII. The Kennedy’s stopped it with diplomacy . I’m not saying that other presidents wouldn’t have handled it the same but the fact remains that JFK was there at the time. To say that he nearly started WWII is way off the mark.
Apparently it did to Elizabeth Moynihan, widow of Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who Senator Clinton succeeded into the Senate.