# Carrie Fisher already looked and was terrible in "The 'Burbs" (1989) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631 "2017-03-20T17:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/1 "2017-03-20T17:56:50Z")
Horrible 80s garbage that I just watched with regret: [The 'Burbs](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096734/?ref_=nv_sr_1). (If you’re going to say this was good, are you going off nostalgia or have you seen it recently?!) Before I say some uncharitable things, I think Carrie Fisher was a great actress up to and including _Return of the Jedi_. She was really pretty, and her spunky style was a big part of what made the Original Trilogy a success. (K, niceness over… Though the above _was_ sincere.) But… it was already well known at least pretty soon after the OT was done that she was heavily into drugs and general hard living, and she does seem to have a cocaine glaze on her eyes in some OT scenes. When she was doing press stuff for _The Dumbfuckery Awakes_ (sorry, terrible _terrible_ movie) in 2015, many people–scratch that _everyone_ made mention that Carrie Fisher looked terrible _terrible_ for her age. And some SJWs pissed and moaned about how there was a double standard for men and women (not really) and it was misogyny to say that she looked liked warmed-over death and blah blah. But really, she looked horrendous and also seemed quite odd, mentally. And then, soon after, to everyone’s shock but really to no one’s surprise, she actually died. (And, being nice again for a moment, I think it would be hellish to have a heart attack on an international flight and have no where to go and then basically die on the plane–_and_ be revived, only to die in the hospital. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. ☹ ) But how she looked and seemed in 2015 would have been less surprising had people remembered how she looked and seemed in _The 'Burbs_ in 1989. I had never seen this movie and hadn’t known what Fisher looked like until she floated up like a bloated corpse, suddenly, on the sea of Star Wars fame. I was thinking, “Oh cool, how nice to see Carrie Fisher back in her hot, talented days. I hope this movie is good!” It was not to be, in any dimension. When the movie was released, she was barely into her 32nd year, but she looks 40, easily. And she was sleepwalking through the whole thing and adding absolutely nothing to it, perhaps taking away from what little there was in the first place. She seems genuinely fucked up. Yes, I know that she was bipolar and was probably self-medicating and all that. It’s genuinely tragic. And I am being a dick writing about it in this way, but I mean, I was really shocked seeing the movie and I had an ah-hah moment about how she seemed in 2015 and how people, collectively, were unaware of just how early she got messed up. So I just thought I’d share that. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![cormac262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@cormac262](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cormac262)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/2 "2017-03-20T18:04:56Z")
“When Harry Met Sally” was released that same year (1989) and I thought she was great, and looked good, in that movie. So I don’t think her “decline” was a continuous one - likely had ups and downs. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/3 "2017-03-20T18:09:36Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Horrible 80s garbage that I just watched with regret: [The 'Burbs](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096734/?ref_=nv_sr_1). (If you’re going to say this was good, are you going off nostalgia or have you seen it recently?!) I saw it again 5 or 6 years ago. It’s a bad movie, but a harmless, very-mildly-amusing-in-a-few-parts bad movie. A step above unwatchable dreck. I can’t defend it much, but I have no antipathy towards it ;). > [@](#): > > When the movie was released, she was barely into her 32nd year, but she looks 40, easily. If she looks 40, it is an [attractive 40](https://www.google.com/search?q=carrie+fisher+burbs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwib2vr21eXSAhWCwLwKHWEqAzUQ_AUICCgB&biw=1216&bih=700) as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/4 "2017-03-20T18:10:47Z")
> [@cormac262](#): > > “When Harry Met Sally” was released that same year (1989) and I thought she was great, and looked good, in that movie. So I don’t think her “decline” was a continuous one - likely had ups and downs. Interesting. Yeah, it seems she was pretty erratic. Also, some people may just disagree with my perception of her in 'Burbs. But I actually was expecting her to look and be great, so it’s not as though I was rooting against her going in. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/5 "2017-03-20T18:12:51Z")
Okay, I’ll be the first to say it: The 'Burbs is good. Even though it had only one Corey. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/6 "2017-03-20T18:13:42Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > If she looks 40, it is an [attractive 40](https://www.google.com/search?q=carrie+fisher+burbs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwib2vr21eXSAhWCwLwKHWEqAzUQ_AUICCgB&biw=1216&bih=700) as far as I’m concerned. Yes, had she actually been 40, she would have looked fine for that age. I think it’s also hard to judge how bad she seems from still photos. She looks a lot worse in her close-ups, and she genuinely seems out of it, mentally. The sparkle that was still there in RotJ is gone. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/7 "2017-03-20T18:20:03Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Thoughts? Is this about Fisher or about Social Justice Warriors? In various stills and clips from _The Burbs_, Fisher looks okay to me, though I hadn’t previously realized how petite she was. [Time lapse compilation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rFT3yxODCE), for what it’s worth. To me, she doesn’t start looking “rough” until 2000, in _Scream 3_. Later films softened her up again, showing the value of good make-up. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/8 "2017-03-20T18:20:38Z")
Wait, the Burbs is a bad movie? Huh. I thought it was OK back when I saw it 20 years ago. I know it is nothing super amazing, but I didn’t think it was horrible 80’s garbage. I thought Funny Farm with Chevy Chase was way less funny, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/9 "2017-03-20T18:30:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Okay, I’ll be the first to say it: The 'Burbs is good. Even though it had only one Corey. Annnd when did you last see it? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/10 "2017-03-20T18:35:14Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Annnd when did you last see it? If I had to guess, probably more than 10 years. But I’m sure I’ve seen it at least 3 or 4 times. (Possibly even in the theater, but I don’t remember.) ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/11 "2017-03-20T18:36:41Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Okay, I’ll be the first to say it: The 'Burbs is good. Even though it had only one Corey. I think after _The Lost Boys_ (1987) Hollywood started imposing a one Corey limit. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/12 "2017-03-20T18:38:35Z")
Holy fuck, that’s terrible looking? I guess I’ll go melt my face in acid or maybe just magic marker it black. Perhaps wear a bag with the word ‘face’ written on it if Carrie Fisher in The 'Burbs is the standard for old-looking-for-your-age terrible. Surely there are real women in your life. You know what they look like and there is no way you would think a 32 year old woman who looked like Carrie Fisher did in The 'Burbs was “terrible” and 'fucked up". I don’t think you are being a dick, however. I think you may be writing with your dick, though. I mean, HOLY FUCKBALLS talk about unreachable standards of beauty! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/13 "2017-03-20T18:40:01Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > I think after _The Lost Boys_ (1987) Hollywood started imposing a one Corey limit. Such bans were made obsolete by the development of multiCorey computer processors. ---
**Author:** ![delphica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@delphica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/delphica)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/14 "2017-03-20T18:40:02Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > When she was doing press stuff for _The Dumbfuckery Awakes_ (sorry, terrible _terrible_ movie) in 2015, many people–scratch that _everyone_ made mention that Carrie Fisher looked terrible _terrible_ for her age. I am really, truly surprised by this comment. Everyone I knew thought she looked great. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/15 "2017-03-20T18:45:21Z")
> [@delphica](#): > > I am really, truly surprised by this comment. Everyone I knew thought she looked great. I think she looked old in The Force Awakens. Like close to 60 or something. ---
**Author:** ![delphica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@delphica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/delphica)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/16 "2017-03-20T18:48:57Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I think she looked old in The Force Awakens. Like close to 60 or something. As if a woman close to 60 would dare show her face in public! Audacious. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/17 "2017-03-20T19:19:53Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > I think after _The Lost Boys_ (1987) Hollywood started imposing a one Corey limit. Not so–The Lost Boys was the [_first_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Coreys#Filmography) of the Corey[sup]2[/sup] movies. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/18 "2017-03-20T19:24:10Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Not so–The Lost Boys was the [_first_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Coreys#Filmography) of the Corey[sup]2[/sup] movies. And the best! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/19 "2017-03-20T19:24:17Z")
BTW, if you think Carrie Fisher looked bad in _The 'Burbs_, you should [see her](http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/94160/94160_full.jpg) in _Drop Dead Fred_ with Phoebe Cates. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/20 "2017-03-20T19:28:19Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > And the best! I donno–_License to Drive_ is pretty strong competition. And [one scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxzLMJBOhHA) from _Dream a Little Dream_. (Okay, I probably have more reason to like _that_ scene than you do.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631.md?page=2)