# Carrie Fisher already looked and was terrible in "The 'Burbs" (1989) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631 "2017-03-20T17:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/81 "2017-03-25T17:15:21Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > [Time lapse compilation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rFT3yxODCE), for what it’s worth. To me, she doesn’t start looking “rough” until 2000, in _Scream 3_. Later films softened her up again, showing the value of good make-up. Yeah, 2000 is when she looks abruptly older, but nothing in that time lapse made me think she was doing anything other than aging normally. I had already read that she was hitting the drugs and booze, but based on the time lapse I wouldn’t have thought “there’s someone who’s hitting the booze and drugs.” ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/82 "2017-03-25T18:17:28Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I can point to lots of people who look older for their age than the average person and who don’t do drugs, and vice versa. This will probably come as a shock to people like the OP, but fully half of all people look older for their age than average. Horrors! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/83 "2017-03-26T20:29:15Z")
I saw her on some Brit Christmas panel show and she looked like she had days to live. A perfectly reasonable look for someone who DID have days to live. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/84 "2017-03-27T17:00:55Z")
I’m a 32 year old woman, and looking at the screenshots if I saw someone looking like her in real life I might think she was older than me, but only because of her hair and clothes. She plays a long-suffering housewife in that movie and looks like it. Change her hair and clothes and she’d look younger and better. It reminds me of when I was on the yearbook committee in high school, and we’d look through the yearbooks from the '60s, and a lot of the high school kids looked to us like they were in their 30s. I’m sure some genuinely looked older, but a lot of it was just because styles had just changed so much. > [@Aeschines](#): > > And some SJWs pissed and moaned about how there was a double standard for men and women (not really) and it was misogyny to say that she looked liked warmed-over death and blah blah. First of all, do you think that there is not a double standard for men and women regarding looks? Both in Hollywood and in real life? Second, I don’t think it’s misogyny to say that she didn’t look fantastic in The Force Awakens. I don’t think she looked terrible, I thought she looked fine, but I wouldn’t think someone was crazy if they thought she looked bad. The misogyny was when some people went on and on about it, and acted like she betrayed everyone by not staying young and hot, and like she shouldn’t have been in the movie. She doesn’t look like she did in the first three movies, but neither does Harrison Ford, and I don’t remember that being a big deal that everyone was talking about. Part of that is because she’s been doing less acting than him and has been out of the spot light, so it is more jarring to see how she’s changed over the years while we’ve seen Ford age in his movies. But it is also partly because men are allowed to grow old and it not be as big of a deal, but aging women are often replaced by younger hotter women. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/85 "2017-03-27T19:08:08Z")
The 'burbs is a fun little movie. Self-contained and actually catches the ‘vibe’ of many US suburbs (murdering neighbours aside). Thought Fisher looked decent in it but ymmv. The OP should really stop digging because it’s starting to come across as a little bit creepy. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/86 "2017-03-27T23:05:55Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > You’ve had a pretty limited experience with movies. Just this weekend, I rewatched large parts of a movie far worse than _The 'Burbs_ when I found it on TV–_Barberella_. Saw large parts of _Mac and Me_ again just a few weeks ago. And while it has been years since I watched it, I have the director’s cut of _Caligula_ on DVD. (_Troll 2_ was on last night, but I didn’t watch it this time.) I’ve seen _Barbarella_. It wasn’t good, but it was a lot less painful to sit through than **The 'Burbs**. Haven’t seen the other two. _Caligula_ was, of course, _infamously_ bad. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/87 "2017-03-28T00:31:00Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > The OP should really stop digging because it’s starting to come across as a little bit creepy. YMMV, but I’d say it was more than a little creepy before the end of the OP. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/88 "2017-03-28T03:52:37Z")
Unrealistic and creepy. Face it: Eddie looked…okay. His wives were beautiful, but the mix of DNA is likely to point to attractive than rather hot. Carrie was very attractive, in a normal way. Joely hit the jackpot, given the cards she was dealt, but complained that her dates would say, “Wow, your mom (Connie Stevens) is hot.” And Joely is still more “hottest woman in the PTA” than any shallower, Hollywood-based criterion. Have I explained why I liked PTA meetings? 😉 Bozo: Oops, its a mom. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/89 "2017-03-28T06:19:15Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > YMMV, but I’d say it was more than a little creepy before the end of the OP. YUP. Creepy and _weird._ ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/90 "2017-03-28T13:32:50Z")
I liked the Burbs. Didn’t realize Carrie Fisher was in it, but never thought to myself “Who is that ghastly troll of a woman playing the wife? She’s totally ruining this film!” (But how about that Tom Hanks guy!? Is he a cutie of what! Huh? Huh!) For all its faults, I liked The Force Awakens, and I thought Carrie Fisher was just fine in it. Matter of fact, I thought she looked better than either Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill, who both look pretty good for their age. As for this OP, it was ugly from the start, and age hasn’t improved it over two pages. Some issues: > [@Aeschines](#): > > Horrible 80s garbage that I just watched with regret: [The 'Burbs](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096734/?ref_=nv_sr_1). (If you’re going to say this was good, are you going off nostalgia or have you seen it recently?!) > > Before I say some uncharitable things, I think Carrie Fisher was a great actress up to and including _Return of the Jedi_. She was really pretty, and her spunky style was a big part of what made the Original Trilogy a success. > > (K, niceness over… Though the above _was_ sincere.) Seriously, you think this is niceness? “God she looked awful in her 30s, but she was cute and spunky in her 20s. OK, pleasantries over.” Good sir, I doubt your sincerity. > [@](#): > > When she was doing press stuff for _The Dumbfuckery Awakes_ (sorry, terrible _terrible_ movie) in 2015, many people–scratch that _everyone_ made mention that Carrie Fisher looked terrible _terrible_ for her age. And some SJWs pissed and moaned about how there was a double standard for men and women (not really) and it was misogyny to say that she looked liked warmed-over death and blah blah. OK, so “everyone” said Carrie Fisher looked terrible (because at 60 she didn’t look like she did at 19?), But then anyone who suggested that was a double standard (and presumably isn’t included in “everyone”?) is a pissy “SJW”? > [@](#): > > I had never seen this movie and hadn’t known what Fisher looked like until she floated up like a bloated corpse, suddenly, on the sea of Star Wars fame. I was thinking, “Oh cool, how nice to see Carrie Fisher back in her hot, talented days. I hope this movie is good!” > > It was not to be, in any dimension. [_Bites tongue_ This is not the Pit. This. is. not. the. Pit.] > [@](#): > > When the movie was released, she was barely into her 32nd year, but she looks 40, easily. So . . . she looked 8 years older than you thought she should look. In a film. Hey, [check out this sad, wrinkly old fart](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lankester_Merrin). Can you believe he was only in his 43rd year when he was in that film? God, he looks 60, easily. > [@](#): > > And I am being a dick writing about it in this way . . . > [@](#): > > Thoughts? People get old. Drugs and booze can fuck you up. Expecting an actress to remain an eternal Hollywood starlet is unfair and unrealistic. > [@Biggirl](#): > > Holy fuck, that’s terrible looking? I guess I’ll go melt my face in acid or maybe just magic marker it black. Perhaps wear a bag with the word ‘face’ written on it if Carrie Fisher in The 'Burbs is the standard for old-looking-for-your-age terrible. > > Surely there are real women in your life. You know what they look like and there is no way you would think a 32 year old woman who looked like Carrie Fisher did in The 'Burbs was “terrible” and 'fucked up". I don’t think you are being a dick, however. I think you may be writing with your dick, though. > > I mean, HOLY FUCKBALLS talk about unreachable standards of beauty! I approve everything about this post, but mostly “HOLY FUCKBALLS”. 4 stars. Would read again. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/91 "2017-03-28T13:35:44Z")
Holy fuckballs! That was a long post. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/92 "2017-03-28T17:14:42Z")
Hey thanks! And it only looks long because of all the quotes. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/93 "2017-03-28T20:49:13Z")
> [@](#): > > As for this OP, it was ugly from the start, and age hasn’t improved it over two pages. ha! ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631/94 "2017-03-29T16:42:48Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Damn…there are people who actually liked _The 'Burbs_? > > It’s easily the worst movie I’ve ever sat through in its entirety. And I would have walked out if I hadn’t been seeing it with a group including some of my wife’s older relatives. I liked it, would watch it again. It was unusual, something I like. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-already-looked-and-was-terrible-in-the-burbs-1989/782631.md?page=4)