# Carrie Fisher has massive heart attack on plane \[UPDATE: RIP\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 23, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482 "2016-12-23T21:44:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/121 "2016-12-27T23:03:19Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I do hope they don’t Tarkin her into the new movie. Didn’t they already? I read that Princess Leia shows up in Rogue One near the end. Upthread is a post saying that she finished her filming. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/122 "2016-12-27T23:22:56Z")
She’d finished Ep 8. Leia was going to be in Ep 9 too, though. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/123 "2016-12-27T23:23:17Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > [Slightly NSFW image](http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/01SGJ30mrDKX04Q9UaVeVTiYkvA=/950x534/filters:quality(90)/https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Fcard%2Fimage%2F330624%2F8e217ecb-ee15-4462-8839-6f23bb17340d.jpg) (not sexually graphic or anything like, just an image some might consider offensive) posted in case anybody needs a cover picture for Facebook regarding 2016’s celebrity massacre. LOVE this picture! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/124 "2016-12-27T23:44:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > And also to her BFF, Penny Marshall, who must also be devastated. (They used to host a joint birthday party [their birthdays are a week apart, though Penny’s about 13 years older] and have been best buds for decades.) > And to her cute little dog, Gary. Remember, too, that Penny’s brother [Garry Marshall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Marshall) also died this year. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/125 "2016-12-27T23:59:47Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Care to offer an explanation for Keith Richards? Pre-embalmed in Chivas. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/126 "2016-12-28T00:13:03Z")
Not right… and too soon. RIP. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/127 "2016-12-28T00:36:56Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Between all the deaths this year I think we can all agree: Doing hard drugs for 10 straight years or whatever does not equal a long life. > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Care to offer an explanation for Keith Richards? Mummification. > [@Lantern](#): > > I was under the vague impression her condition had become stable so this is really sad. “Stable” just means “not getting better or worse”. If you’re in a coma but not getting worse you’re “stable”. The survival rate for a cardiac arrest, even with competent CPR, is pretty damn low. When they didn’t say she was getting better after a couple days I started anticipating her passing. Just a damn shame. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/128 "2016-12-28T01:17:37Z")
I just stumbled across this on YouTube, and thought it a fitting [tribute](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLAx3VDX7g&list=RD17QQcK4l6Yw&index=6). ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/129 "2016-12-28T01:21:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > “Stable” just means “not getting better or worse”. If you’re in a coma but not getting worse you’re “stable”. As someone else, maybe even here, pointed out, dead is awfully stable too. ---
**Author:** ![janis\_and\_c0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janis_and_c0/32/21_2.png) [@janis\_and\_c0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janis_and_c0)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/130 "2016-12-28T01:31:16Z")
The Heart attack story is a cover. She actually [drowned in moonlight, strangled by her own bra](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/12/carrie-fisher-dies-strangled-by-bra-wishful-drinking). RIP. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/131 "2016-12-28T02:24:20Z")
> [@janis\_and\_c0](#): > > The Heart attack story is a cover. She actually [drowned in moonlight, strangled by her own bra](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/12/carrie-fisher-dies-strangled-by-bra-wishful-drinking). > > RIP. Another forum I visit has changed the title of their obituary thread on her to that phrase. ---
**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/132 "2016-12-28T03:22:05Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > A heart attack is what happens when a artery that serves the heart gets blocked, generally by ruptured plaque. If it’s an artery that serves a small area of the heart, the heart can continue to function, although at reduced output. If it’s a big artery (like the infamous “Widowmaker,” the LAD), then the heart attack becomes “massive,” where a large portion of the muscle is damaged. This usually leads to death, but not always. Possible deep vein thrombosis event? (Reminds me of Tim Russert keeling after a long flight) If you’re an EMT/Dr./nurse, I guess you’re always on call, even when you’re not. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/133 "2016-12-28T03:52:25Z")
Mark Hamill has found some words > [@Mark Hamill](#): > > It’s never easy to lose such a vital, irreplaceable member of the family, but this is downright heartbreaking. Carrie was one-of-a-kind who belonged to us all- whether she liked it or not. She was OUR Princess, damn it, & the actress who played her blurred into one gorgeous, fiercely independent & ferociously funny, take-charge woman who took our collective breath away. Determined & tough, but with a vulnerability that made you root for her & want her to succeed & be happy. She played such a crucial role in my professional & personal life, & both would have been far emptier without her. I am grateful for the laughter, the wisdom, the kindness & even the bratty, self-indulgent crap my beloved space-twin gave me through the years. Thanks Carrie. I love you, mh ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/134 "2016-12-28T05:27:09Z")
> [@NetTrekker](#): > > Possible deep vein thrombosis event? (Reminds me of Tim Russert keeling after a long flight) > > If you’re an EMT/Dr./nurse, I guess you’re always on call, even when you’re not. It’s possible it was a DVT. They announced yesterday (it’s 12:12am as I type this on Wednesday morning) that [Garry Shandling](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/comedian-garry-shandling-official-death-revealed-article-1.2925472) died of a blood clot that went from his leg to his lung (what they call a “pulmonary thrombosis” or [“pulmonary embolism”](http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pulmonary-embolism/home/ovc-20234736)). And yeah, EMTs/doctors/nurses/firefighters/police officers/military folk are never really “off duty.” In Indiana (my home state), we (I’ve been an EMT for over 8 years) were informed that, if there’s a situation that occurs where someone can ID me as an EMT (uniform, license plate, sticker in the car window, etc), then I’m obligated to assist\*. \*I don’t know how true - or legally binding - that statement is. It’s just what I was told. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/135 "2016-12-28T14:27:08Z")
And let’s not forget her Big Bang cameo in one of the funniest episodes ever: Carrie Fisher: It’s not funny any more, James. James Earl Jones: Then why am I laughing? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/136 "2016-12-28T22:02:30Z")
I’m seeing reports from [TMZ](http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-hospitalized-stroke/) that Debbie Reynolds has been rushed to the hospital with a stroke. Take it for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/137 "2016-12-28T22:25:29Z")
Well, after my sister died my mother suffered a “cardiac episode” - losing a child is one of the most stressful things a human being can endure. Worsening of a health issue after that is not unheard of. I hope Ms. Reynolds is OK, it would be terrible for the extended family to lose two people so close together. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/138 "2016-12-28T22:47:32Z")
Debbie Reynolds has had a couple of strokes in the last few years. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/139 "2016-12-28T22:59:16Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I’m seeing reports from [TMZ](http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-hospitalized-stroke/) that Debbie Reynolds has been rushed to the hospital with a stroke. > > Take it for what it’s worth. [Chicago Tribune](http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-debbie-reynolds-hospital-20161228-story.html) reporting it as well so that should make it legit for most people. They aren’t saying a stroke but that she fell ill with breathing problems. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482/140 "2016-12-28T23:03:03Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > [Chicago Tribune](http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-debbie-reynolds-hospital-20161228-story.html) reporting it as well so that should make it legit for most people. They aren’t saying a stroke but that she fell ill with breathing problems. And [_The Los Angeles Times_](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-debbie-reynolds-ill-20161228-story.html). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-fisher-has-massive-heart-attack-on-plane-update-rip/775482.md?page=8)