# Carrie Prejean vs. Larry King \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294 "2009-11-12T07:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/21 "2009-11-12T15:01:05Z")
I watched the tapes again. Although they may have been edited and that editing could taint the viewer’s opinion, you can clearly see several things. As soon as Larry anounces that they are taking a viewer call, Carrie looks over her right shoulder and mouths something. What she mouthed I couldn’t make out. Immediately thereafter she begins taking her microphone off. It is unclear whether or not she heard the question from the caller, a gay man asking something about gay marriage. It seems odd that she would terminate the interview based on a single call, the substance of which she probably never heard, unless such an agreement existed. Larry was dealing off the bottom of the deck here by making her departure look unwarranted. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/22 "2009-11-12T15:11:08Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I’d like someone to ask her about her understanding of “free speech” and the First Amendment, personally, since last I checked she’s still wailing about how her “right to free speech” has been abridged. I’ve heard lots of second-hand accounts of her saying that, but nothing direct. If anyone does have a specific quote from her about “free speech” I think it would be an interesting contribution here. For King’s part in this (pending confirmation of the facts), yeah, he sucks, too. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/23 "2009-11-12T15:14:45Z")
Cite that she was given an agreement (an _unprecedented_ agreement) that she wouldn’t have to take calls on the show? Prejean has a history of lying through her teeth. Larry King does not have any history of being duplicious with guests. His reputation is just the opposite, that he’s a doormat for them. Until you can actually provide some proof that an agreement existed, then I think we have to conclude that the event was just what it looked like – a snotty little non-celebrity having a snit-fit. Actually, even if there was an agreement on calls (and I don’t believe for a second that there was, since LK never does that), I still don’t care. I would actually give kudos to LK for NOT honoring such an agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/24 "2009-11-12T15:20:40Z")
I think the “free speech” stuff is coming from conflations of her post-Miss America comments and this story. I can’t find any report of her complaining about abrogation of her freedom of speech with regard to her Larry King appearance. Unfortunately, I also can’t find her sex tape, which is mildly disappointing, 'cause that bitch is hot. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to take a shower - in performing research for this post, I just visited Conservapaedia for the first time. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/25 "2009-11-12T15:25:20Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Larry was dealing off the bottom of the deck here by making her departure look unwarranted. Who cares, really? The ONLY thing interesting about this woman is that she’s attractive and there’s a sex tape out there somewhere (which sadly, I won’t be looking for, since there is doubt about how old she was when it was made). Poor little attention whore maybe got blindsided by Larry King. My advice is if she wants to run with the big dogs, she better toughen up. ---
**Author:** ![WPA-Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WPA-Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WPA-Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/26 "2009-11-12T15:26:17Z")
> [@](#): > > KING: We’re back with Carrie Prejean. She’s the author of “Still Standing.” That book is available everywhere. **We’ll take a call or two for Carrie in a moment.** You sued the pageant after they fired you. They counter-sued. And then you accused them of a number of things including religious discrimination, clearly an issue very important to you. Why did you settle? You don’t have to tell me the terms of the settlement. But why settle, since you had a fight to carry on? > > PREJEAN: Larry, everything that was discussed in mediation – I’ll say it again – is completely confidential. I’m not going to be able to talk about that. So I’m just letting you know that ahead of time. > > KING: So you can’t even say why you settled? That’s not – how does that break what you settled for. I’m not asking you what the settlement was. > > PREJEAN: It’s a confidential agreement and I’m not allowed to talk about that. So – > > KING: So the agreement discusses the motive behind why each party agreed? > > PREJEAN: Larry, you’re being inappropriate. You really are. So I’m not going to – > > KING: What? I’m asking a question. > > PREJEAN: I’m not going to talk about anything discussed in mediation. It was a confidential settlement. > > KING: All I’m asking – so – All right. So what you’re saying is, in mediation, it was discussed why you were mediating? > > PREJEAN: Larry, it’s completely confidential. And you’re being inappropriate, OK? > > KING: All right. Inappropriate King Live continues. Detroit, hello. Note: Bolding is Mine. You can read the transcript here: [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/11/lkl.01.html](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/11/lkl.01.html) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/27 "2009-11-12T15:29:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I think the “free speech” stuff is coming from conflations of her post-Miss America comments and this story. Oh, the free speech stuff was about her pageant appearance and the public reaction to her comments, all of which made no sense anyway. If that same person then tried to restrict what King could say, or if callers could say anything at all, I think that would be just beyond ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/28 "2009-11-12T15:33:14Z")
She is almost certainly required to keep the terms and conditions of the settlement confidential, by the terms of the settlement itself. However, I would be extremely surprised if discussing the mediation was verboten. It’s not a bad tactic to pretend it is, though, since most people have a vague idea that “settlements are confidential”. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/29 "2009-11-12T15:37:40Z")
“KING: All right. Inappropriate King Live continues. Detroit, hello” That’s pretty damned funny, IMO. And this one is just plain dumb: “KING: All I’m asking – so – All right. So what you’re saying is, in mediation, it was discussed why you were mediating?” – What we don’t know is if LK was aware of preconditions before Prejean agreed to come on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/30 "2009-11-12T15:43:20Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > She is almost certainly required to keep the terms and conditions of the settlement confidential, by the terms of the settlement itself. However, I would be extremely surprised if discussing the mediation was verboten. It’s possible she just doesn’t want to since apparently she got her ass kicked in the mediation. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/31 "2009-11-12T15:50:02Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Cite that she was given an agreement (an _unprecedented_ agreement) that she wouldn’t have to take calls on the show? (quote edited by me…) I pointed that out in post #5 the “cite” problem. Dio… _Agreeing not to talk_ isn’t uncommon at all. Most people involved in lawsuits refuse to discuss the matters. If Larry didn’t know that, his producers certainly should have. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/32 "2009-11-12T15:50:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to take a shower - in performing research for this post, I just visited Conservapaedia for the first time. Given [the previous sentence](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11770288&postcount=17), that was not how I thought that statement was going to end. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/33 "2009-11-12T15:57:57Z")
It might have turned out differently if I’d found the video instead. ---
**Author:** ![rivulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rivulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rivulus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/34 "2009-11-12T15:58:06Z")
What a crybaby. Not surprising that Sarah Palin is her hero – she learned that when the going gets tough… you quit. Pick up your marbles, take off your mike, and threaten to go home. Boo hoo. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/35 "2009-11-12T16:03:36Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > (quote edited by me…) > > I pointed that out in post #5 the “cite” problem. Dio… > > _Agreeing not to talk_ isn’t uncommon at all. Most people involved in lawsuits refuse to discuss the matters. If Larry didn’t know that, his producers certainly should have. He didn’t ask her to discuss the settlement. Settlement agreements do not preclude anyone from saying why they settled. He didn’t ask her for any terms. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/36 "2009-11-12T16:07:04Z")
Most settlement agreements do not. You don’t know if _this_ one did, for whatever reason - there could conceivably have been some of the pageants own dirty laundry aired during the mediation too. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/37 "2009-11-12T16:08:28Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Who cares, really? > > The ONLY thing interesting about this woman is that she’s attractive and there’s a sex tape out there somewhere (which sadly, I won’t be looking for, since there is doubt about how old she was when it was made). The boyfriend she made it for says she was 20, and that it was one of several. He’s also said that she and her people had been calling him and asking him to lie about her age, but he refused, not the least of which because she was simultaneously trashing him in the media. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/38 "2009-11-12T16:08:45Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > For those who can’t watch, Larry prefaces his question by saying he knows the mediation with the Miss CA organization is confidential, but asks what her motivations for settling would be if she felt she was doing what was right. He asks this question no less than 3 different ways and she is clearly confused. She’s not confused; King just keeps asking her about a subject she apparently believes they agreed not to cover. She refuses to answer, he persists. Then the first call the screener lets thru is a gay guy asking her something about gay marriage. No wonder her hero is Sarah Palin - they have a lot in common. Every interview is going to be attempts to discredit and demean her. Liberals can tolerate anything except disagreement, and value all diversity except diversity of opinion. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/39 "2009-11-12T16:11:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Most settlement agreements do not. You don’t know if _this_ one did, for whatever reason - there could conceivably have been some of the pageants own dirty laundry aired during the mediation too. I’m going to go out on a limb and say it didn’t. She didn’t even really SAY there was an agreement not to talk about the reason she settled, she just tried to vaguely imply that it was part of the agreement, which it wasn’t. She just didn’t want to admit they kicked her ass in mediation. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/40 "2009-11-12T16:16:46Z")
Sure, but if Larry and/or his producers agreed not to ask about the mediation and/or take calls, his behavior was indeed inappropriate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=3)