# Carrie Prejean vs. Larry King \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294 "2009-11-12T07:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/61 "2009-11-12T17:14:46Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If she was trying to imply that she was forbidden to talk about why she settled, then she was lying. Now, be fair, **Dio**. It’s entirely possible that she’s simply too stupid to understand the conditions of her settlement, and honestly thinks she’s not allowed to say anything about it at all. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/62 "2009-11-12T17:20:01Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It’s fine for her to refuse to answer, but there was nothing inappropriate about LK asking the question. Why the hell does she think she gets on shows like that at all, if not to answer the questions about the Miss America flap? Her refusal to comment on any part of the litigation is reasonable and not at all deceptive. I’ve seen hundreds if not thousands of interviews where all questions regarding pending litigation were not answered, and never once did I think they were lying to avoid answering. She’s on the show because she’s a celebrity, albeit a small one. Crap, Octa-mom wins the Breeder’s cup and she’s a celebrity, why not Carrie? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/63 "2009-11-12T17:24:52Z")
Prejean is only a “celebrity” because she ran her mouth off at a beauty pagent. There is no other reason to put her on TV and interview her except to ask her about that one incident and the subsequent flap. If she’s not going to talk about that stuff, then she has no business going on the show. There is no other reason to put her on the air (unless she’s going to get them out, of course). ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/64 "2009-11-12T17:35:36Z")
Well, I for one would \*love \*to listen to her rattle off trite platitudes about preserving “opposite” marriage and loving America, and I’m very cross with Mr. King for denying me that pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/65 "2009-11-12T17:39:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Prejean is only a “celebrity” because she ran her mouth off at a beauty pagent. There is no other reason to put her on TV and interview her except to ask her about that one incident and the subsequent flap. I hardly think answering a question she was asked (which is part of the pageant) is “running her mouth off.” She’s defended her view in the past and there is no reason to believe she won’t again. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If she’s not going to talk about that stuff, then she has no business going on the show. There is no other reason to put her on the air (unless she’s going to get them out, of course). She refused to discuss the case, not “that stuff.” As far as taking calls, I don’t blame her at all. I’m willing to bet it (call in questions) was discussed prior to the taping. What was decided is another thing. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/66 "2009-11-12T17:43:12Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Her refusal to comment on any part of the litigation is reasonable and not at all deceptive. I’ve seen hundreds if not thousands of interviews where all questions regarding **pending litigation** were not answered, and never once did I think they were lying to avoid answering. Bolding mine. This was not pending litigation. The case had already been settled. Quite a different thing. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/67 "2009-11-12T17:47:09Z")
Quick quiz - who here knows the name of the pageant winner that beat out PreJean, i.e. the current Miss USA? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/68 "2009-11-12T17:48:28Z")
Also, why would she go on a call-in show if she wasn’t going to answer calls? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/69 "2009-11-12T17:48:59Z")
On the other hand, is it really a sex tape if she was pleasuring herself? I mean, is masturbation “sex?” If so, I’m a fucking stud! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/70 "2009-11-12T17:49:33Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Quick quiz - who here knows the name of the pageant winner that beat out PreJean, i.e. the current Miss USA? Great point. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/71 "2009-11-12T17:50:15Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Bolding mine. > > This was not pending litigation. The case had already been settled. Quite a different thing. Not totally true. There are still “pending issues” according to the news reports. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/72 "2009-11-12T17:51:31Z")
What pending issues, and what news reports? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/73 "2009-11-12T17:55:22Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Not totally true. There are still “pending issues” according to the news reports. The pageant is unlikely have agreed to any settlement that did not resolve any possible claim she could bring. Now, she might be suing somebody else, too - this is America, after all - but you would think she would have said so. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/74 "2009-11-12T17:56:24Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Great point. Related, who remembers the name of the runner-up that assumed the Miss America title after Vanessa Williams stepped down? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/75 "2009-11-12T17:58:09Z")
Related related question: who gives a shit who ever won the Miss America title? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/76 "2009-11-12T17:58:58Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What pending issues, and what news reports? I’m going to guess it’s this… _K2 Productions countersued in October, asking to be reimbursed $5,200 for the beauty queen’s breast implants._ At least, I’d like it to be that. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/77 "2009-11-12T18:11:01Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Related related question: who gives a shit who ever won the Miss America title? My point is that Perez Hilton ended up doing Prejean a huge favour (and arguably Bob Guccione greatly helped Williams) in the long run because scandals are more memorable than victories. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/78 "2009-11-12T18:12:13Z")
A settlement would have resolved both her original suit and any countersuit. Her lawyers would have to be incompetent on an Orly Taitz level to leave the pageant its cause of action while settling Prejean’s. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/79 "2009-11-12T18:53:35Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Related related question: who gives a shit who ever won the Miss America title? Eh, it \*used \*to be a fairly big deal. Anita Bryant, for instance, traded on her crown. And I was told that many gasps were heard when Bess Meyerson won it (she’s one of them Jews, you know). ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/80 "2009-11-12T19:14:37Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > She refused to discuss the case, not “that stuff.” As far as taking calls, I don’t blame her at all. I’m willing to bet it (call in questions) was discussed prior to the taping. What was decided is another thing. Hmm. Let’s see. You call her by her first name and you’re a staunch defender of this person when pretty much everyone else thinks she’s a vapid bimbo who’s 15 minutes were up a long time ago. Things that make you go… hmmm. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=5)