# Carrie Prejean vs. Larry King \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294 "2009-11-12T07:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/81 "2009-11-12T20:02:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There is no evidence, nor (as far as I can see) even an assertion by Prejean that they had an agreement as to whether she would be asked why she settled, and there is only her own word that she had an agreement not to take calls. I don’t buy that she had an agreement for either (especially the calls), but I don’t really care even if she did, because agreements like that are made to be pissed on. Thing is, many of Larry King’s shows or segments do not feature callers. I just went through recent transcripts and easily found several. [Here’s a panel discussing the Beltway sniper execution - no callers.](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/10/lkl.01.html)[Here’s an interview with Mariah Carey - again no callers.](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/08/lkl.01.html) So whatever agreement was reached, it is clear that the absence of callers is hardly an unprecedented event, as was implied in your earlier post. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/82 "2009-11-12T20:07:29Z")
Panel discussions don’t count. Maybe Mariah Carey can get special treatmnent, but Prejean didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/83 "2009-11-12T20:11:58Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Thing is, many of Larry King’s shows or segments do not feature callers. I just went through recent transcripts and easily found several. [Here’s a panel discussing the Beltway sniper execution - no callers.](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/10/lkl.01.html)[Here’s an interview with Mariah Carey - again no callers.](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/08/lkl.01.html) Might just be that nobody cares about Mariah Carey. 😉 > [@](#): > > Maybe Mariah Carey can get special treatmnent, but Prejean didn’t. Oh, come on, dude. He’s got you. You said this sort of treatment was “unprecedented”, and it clearly isn’t. Besides, it’s not like Mariah Carey is some kind of huge ratings draw that Larry King would change all the rules for. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/84 "2009-11-12T20:18:11Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > He didn’t ask her to discuss the settlement. Settlement agreements do not preclude anyone from saying why they settled. He didn’t ask her for any terms. Those were the terms her lawyer wanted. Why would the opposition want those terms? The question was not inappropriate. Her sex tapes could be called inappropriate, but why would mentioning them as the reason she lost her case be wrong to discuss? What else does she offer of interest? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/85 "2009-11-12T20:20:25Z")
Big fake titties and a dazzling smile. The world is her oyster, for the next four and a half years. After that… well, hope she marries well. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/86 "2009-11-12T20:26:20Z")
Here’s the issue: he didn’t ask, “Golly, Carrie, tell us why you’re such an American hero and where we can buy your book?” She didn’t like that so she pissed off in a huff. All this bullshit about she was too noble or whatever to answer innapropriate questions and did Larry agree or not agree to let callers in and all that shit … it’s just pissing in the wind. This vapid tool thought she was going to get to freely flog her book and she didn’t get to. She doesn’t seem to be interested in being a source of anything but right-wing talking points in the first place. If she doesn’t have the chops to face basic journalistic questions she should stick to Fox ‘News’ and spare the rest of us her fucking hissy fits. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/87 "2009-11-12T20:32:48Z")
Do you not watch Larry King? He doesn’t _ask_ basic journalist questions. His interviews are about as hard-hitting as Joan Rivers’, only he doesn’t mock his guests’ fashion sense. Prejean had every reason to believe he was going to ask why she’s such an American hero and where we can buy her book and so on. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/88 "2009-11-12T20:33:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Related, who remembers the name of the runner-up that assumed the Miss America title after Vanessa Williams stepped down? Suzette Charles. (I don’t know why I know this. I’m sure that brain space could be used for a much better function, but this is what it has decided to retain.) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/89 "2009-11-12T20:39:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Do you not watch Larry King? He doesn’t _ask_ basic journalist questions. His interviews are about as hard-hitting as Joan Rivers’, only he doesn’t mock his guests’ fashion sense. > > Prejean had every reason to believe he was going to ask why she’s such an American hero and where we can buy her book and so on. Well isn’t that just tough shit for her. She took her chances that he was going to fawn all over her and he didn’t. She fucked up. She should have stuck with Fox. In the meantime, the normal world gets one more reminder as to why she should be recycled whole to supply silicone treatments for the poor. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/90 "2009-11-12T20:48:27Z")
Dude, I don’t like her any more than you do, but I don’t understand this at all. If there was an agreement in place that certain topics would not be discussed, I can totally understand why she flipped out when they were. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/91 "2009-11-12T20:50:34Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Prejean had every reason to believe he was going to ask why she’s such an American hero and where we can buy her book and so on. Hey, this is _Larry King_ we’re talking about. She had every reason to expect a marriage proposal. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/92 "2009-11-12T20:57:50Z")
Sarah Palin as her hero? Beauty contestant? I see a Republican nominee for Gov. of Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/93 "2009-11-12T20:58:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Hey, this is Larry King we’re talking about. > > She had every reason to expect a marriage proposal. Thread won. Thanks for playing, guys. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/94 "2009-11-12T21:24:29Z")
I didn’t see this yesterday, but I just watched it. That was clearly staged. Whoever it was off stage was directing it like a stageplay. The whole walking off the set thing is becoming a right wing go to tactic. Tom Tancredo did it the other day and I’ve seen it elsewhere. Stupid to try it with Larry King, though. You look foolish with a softball tosser like him. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/95 "2009-11-12T21:25:41Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can I have her front? Be careful what you wish for. That’s the side that talks. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/96 "2009-11-12T21:29:48Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Liberals can tolerate anything except disagreement, and value all diversity except diversity of opinion. Liberals can tolerate disagreement just fine. (Og knows liberals _themselves_ disagree on any number of things.) What we have trouble with is folk mounting attack-dog histrionics and then hiding behind the idea of free speech taunting, “Nanny nanny boo boo, you can’t answer back or you’re pissing all over my rights!” Holy joes like Carrie are particularly known for this tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/97 "2009-11-12T22:01:33Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Dude, I don’t like her any more than you do, but I don’t understand this at all. If there was an agreement in place that certain topics would not be discussed, I can totally understand why she flipped out when they were. I don’t believe it’s been established that there was any agreement. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/98 "2009-11-12T22:16:01Z")
Is it just me, or does anyone else just know that every single time there’s a "\_\_\_ vs. \_\_\_\_ " in the media, you’re going to end up wanting both sides to lose? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/99 "2009-11-12T22:31:28Z")
So when she ends up doing hardcore with Levi Johnston what do you think the title of the movie should be? I like either INTO THE WILD CHILD or SILICON VALLEYS. (This is of course after they move in with Danny Bonaduce, Arsenio Hall, and Courtney Love for SURREAL LIFE or join David Lee Roth, Florence Henderson and Al Sharpton for Season Umpteen of DANCING WITH THE STARS.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/100 "2009-11-12T22:58:16Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t believe it’s been established that there was any agreement. Exactly - but you have categorically stated that she was lying. If she was lying about the agreement, then obviously it was immaterial. However, we don’t know that she was. You went so far as to say that it doesn’t matter if she’s telling the truth or not - King should have drilled her\*, agreement or no agreement. On the other hand, we also don’t know if Larry King was being a douche, so I disagree with the OP too. \*Not that sort of drilled, though I’m sure Larry and his aging pecker would be happy to oblige. God knows I’d drill her too, if only to make her stop talking for a while. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=6)