# Carrie Prejean vs. Larry King \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294 "2009-11-12T07:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/121 "2009-11-13T07:53:36Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > That said, I’ve met Larry King at a political convention and he was the most gracious journalist there. He was polite and kind to his admirers, and the rest of them were frankly pricks, even compared to politicians. The embalmers did a wonderful job. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/122 "2009-11-13T08:15:11Z")
I don’t quite understand how they could have gotten her to drop a lawsuit by threatening to release a sex tape of her. Isn’t that illegal somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/123 "2009-11-13T08:43:34Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > I don’t quite understand how they could have gotten her to drop a lawsuit by threatening to release a sex tape of her. Isn’t that illegal somehow? If they planned to use it in the trial to demonstrate yet another reason they did not want her to represent California then I don’t think it would be considered blackmail. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/124 "2009-11-13T09:19:05Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If they planned to use it in the trial to demonstrate yet another reason they did not want her to represent California then I don’t think it would be considered blackmail. Unfortunately true. Vetting the contestants is supposed to be done before they are elected. Either they knew about it and didn’t care, or they didn’t think it was worth trying to find out about it. While I agree with the rest of you that she is an idiot, I don’t think someone should be able to fired because of their political or religious belief. And being pro-life is always one or the other. The pageant people knew they couldn’t win on the merits of the case But they did have something they could use against her, and they used it. They had a built-in loophole to keep from getting prosecuted for blackmail. ---
**Author:** ![Godinama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e95f7d/32.png) [@Godinama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Godinama)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/125 "2009-11-13T10:06:21Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I think that was _Knocked Up_. :smack: So it was. Same actress, though, so half points? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/126 "2009-11-13T14:02:17Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Unfortunately true. Vetting the contestants is supposed to be done before they are elected. Either they knew about it and didn’t care, or they didn’t think it was worth trying to find out about it. They didn’t become aware of it until after the pageant. She was in breech of her contract by not having divulged that she did a series of porn tapes when she entered the pageant. She didn’t have a leg to stand on. It wasn’t blackmail, it was straight up breech of contract on her part. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/127 "2009-11-13T14:15:05Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > She’s hot if you REALLY like the fake breasts, fake tan, dumber than a box of rocks, and more makeup than Lenin’s corpse. Check, check… how much makeup is Lenin’s corpse wearing? > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > With the sex tapes being used at the mediation, she has the better part of the confidentiality agreement and she doesn’t want them getting released. > > That said, I’ve met Larry King at a political convention and he was the most gracious journalist there. He was polite and kind to his admirers, and the rest of them were frankly pricks, even compared to politicians. That assumes that the pageant officials are the only people who have copies of the sex tape(s), which I doubt, considering her ex-boyfriend is apparently nattering about them to any gossip rag which will listen. Larry King was _really_ funny on the Daily Show. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/128 "2009-11-13T15:16:04Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If they planned to use it in the trial to demonstrate yet another reason they did not want her to represent California then I don’t think it would be considered blackmail. Not if she were contending that she is a pure as the driven snow religious girl who was just so offended by the attacks against her religiosity. The nude tapes are relevant and suggest she is a poser. It contradicts her stance and suggests she is a gold digger trying to shake down the beauty contest for money. I don’t think they were threatening to release them, merely that they had them. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/129 "2009-11-13T15:46:09Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > While I agree with the rest of you that she is an idiot, I don’t think someone should be able to fired because of their political or religious belief. And being pro-life is always one or the other. 1.) I agree that that her stance, as stated in her answer in the pageant (i.e., it was against her personal religious beliefs, with no mention of legality or legislation), should not have been grounds to disqualify her. People can believe whatever stupid shit they want. 2.) Where is this pro-life thing coming from? The whole kerfluffle was about same-sex marriage. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/130 "2009-11-13T15:51:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Keith Lewis, executive director of Miss California USA and Miss California Teen USA, released a statement on Thursday. > > “The public is finally getting a glimpse of the real Carrie Prejean who lives in her own delusional world,” he said. “The childish behavior, her negative attitude, the sarcasm and condescending tone, the disrespect and continual lying she is demonstrating now is only a fraction of what we endured during her reign and after.” > > “Anyone who buys her book is supporting a woman who is actually the opposite of everything she claims to be,” the statement went on to say. “I sincerely hope she is able to get the psychological help I believe she has shown to clearly need.” I wonder if she’ll sue over this comment. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/131 "2009-11-13T15:54:53Z")
Why on earth does Lewis feel the need to issue a statement? Anyway, it’s not like anyone is going to have much sympathy for her. _They_ chose her, after all. It’s not her fault if they didn’t look beyond tits and teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/132 "2009-11-13T15:56:55Z")
She wasn’t stripped of her Miss California crown for being a hateful bigot. She may have lost Perez Hilton’s vote costing her first place in the Miss USA for it though. The pagents case is that she was spending all of her time sucking up to the RW nutjobs and ignoring her contracted duties as Miss California. The cherry on top for them is that it came out after the fact that she had hidden a number of photos and videos that she was required to inform them about, thus breeching her contract in another way as well. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/133 "2009-11-13T15:59:48Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if she’ll sue over this comment. Prejean would have to prove it isn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/134 "2009-11-13T16:00:27Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Why on earth does Lewis feel the need to issue a statement? Anyway, it’s not like anyone is going to have much sympathy for her. _They_ chose her, after all. It’s not her fault if they didn’t look beyond tits and teeth. Sympathy for them, I mean. Although her works too. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/135 "2009-11-13T16:03:19Z")
I have sympathy for them. Besides, she’s been trashing them, why shouldn’t they say something back? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/136 "2009-11-13T16:06:18Z")
Not after the settlement. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/137 "2009-11-13T16:12:39Z")
So what? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/138 "2009-11-13T16:18:53Z")
I believe that Keith Lewis issuing a statement is valid because … well, why not throw some more entertainment cherries on the top of this shit sundae. Need I remind everyone again that the hallowed institution that is being sullied throughout this whole ordeal is the Who Gives A Shit About Miss America Contest. Gay pageant judges, free speech, fake tits, nude pictures, religious persecution, masturbation videos, Larry King, lawsuits, statements, … I’m just hoping we get into UFO abductions and maybe something on the Illuminati to officially turn this story into The Funniest Blip of Entertainment News of the Year. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/139 "2009-11-13T16:29:59Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > She’s not confused; King just keeps asking her about a subject she apparently believes they agreed not to cover. She refuses to answer, he persists. > > Then the first call the screener lets thru is a gay guy asking her something about gay marriage. I haven’t been following this but if her being terminated supposedly had nothing to do with her gay marriage gaffe, why does gay marriage have anything to do with it? And also, why is her lying about the “sex” tape relevant? Why was it even brought up? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/140 "2009-11-13T16:32:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Prejean would have to prove it isn’t true. Her grandfather fought for General Patton; what more proof do you need that they’re lying? My favorite moment is her hysterical tearful spiel glurge over how Gwampa’s fighting for Patton somehow gave her the right to be in beauty pageants and express her opinion as a Christian. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=8)