# Carrie Prejean vs. Larry King \[merged threads\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294 "2009-11-12T07:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/141 "2009-11-13T16:35:31Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I haven’t been following this but if her being terminated supposedly had nothing to do with her gay marriage gaffe, why does gay marriage have anything to do with it? It doesn’t. > [@](#): > > And also, why is her lying about the “sex” tape relevant? Why was it even brought up? Was it brought up at all on the LK show? Or are you asking why it was brought up in her settlement mediation? If you’re asking the latter, it was relevant beause it represented a breech of contract on her part that she didn’t disclose her porn tapes (actually denied having done any) to the Miss California people. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/142 "2009-11-13T16:39:17Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It doesn’t. > > Was it brought up at all on the LK show? Or are you asking why it was brought up in her settlement mdiation? If you’re asking the latter, it was relevant beause it represented a breech of contract on her part that she didn’t disclose her porn tapes (actually denied having done any) to the Miss California people. In the settlement mediation. I guess there’s stipulations and stuff about not having done porn and the like before you enter the pageant. I’m really not getting the “Larry King shouldn’t have asked her this” stuff. I mean, why even have her on to begin with, really? All she’s famous for is this Miss America crap. And her book is ABOUT her pageant related experiences–she hasn’t done anything else you can ask her about. Her whole shtick seems to be violating the terms of her agreement and then complaining that it’s because people have it in for her (“They made me leave because they hated my gay marriage answer!” or “Larry asked me hard questions”). ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/143 "2009-11-13T16:39:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I believe that Keith Lewis issuing a statement is valid because … well, why not throw some more entertainment cherries on the top of this shit sundae. > > Need I remind everyone again that the hallowed institution that is being sullied throughout this whole ordeal is the Who Gives A Shit About Miss America Contest. > > Gay pageant judges, free speech, fake tits, nude pictures, religious persecution, masturbation videos, Larry King, lawsuits, statements, … I’m just hoping we get into UFO abductions and maybe something on the Illuminati to officially turn this story into The Funniest Blip of Entertainment News of the Year. Naah. It will be cattle mutilation while dressed as a Catholic Grey Nun. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/144 "2009-11-13T18:07:36Z")
Dearsweet holey mutter of Og, just get the sex tapes out and let this whole wharrgarbl system blow out to sea. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/145 "2009-11-13T19:03:39Z")
Boo hooo. Booo hooo hooo, poooor oppressed Christians. Call me when her house is torched or her mother is fed to a lion. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/146 "2009-11-13T20:24:41Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > They didn’t become aware of it until after the pageant. She was in breech of her contract by not having divulged that she did a series of porn tapes when she entered the pageant. She didn’t have a leg to stand on. It wasn’t blackmail, it was straight up breech of contract on her part. **Breach** of contract. However, given where a **breech** birth comes from, it is an excellent typo. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/147 "2009-11-13T21:09:59Z")
It looks like it was all planned in advance. > [@](#): > > **Prejean threatened walkout before she stepped on set of ‘Larry King Live’** > > A huge “nay” for Carrie Prejean. > > Upon entering CNN’s Washington Bureau Wednesday night, the first words out of Former Miss California Carrie Prejean’s mouth to CNN news assistant Christina McAusland were, “You tell Larry if he’s not nice to me, I will get up and leave.” > > McAusland, who said she admired Prejean for her candor, was shocked by the beauty queen’s tone and warned “Larry King Live” producer John Gilmore of her threat. > > Beyond her on-air hissy fit, the beauty queen’s behavior at the studio was classless. > > She arrived with an entourage of five, (for cable news Green Room context, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., never arrives with a group that large) and barked at a studio operator for touching her hair while setting up her microphone. > > After her appearance in which she dubbed King “inappropriate” and attempted to exit the set, Prejean accused the staffer of lying to her, saying King’s producers promised no phone calls. She belittled McAusland saying, “Is the intern talking to me? Oh look at the little intern, look at the little intern trying to explain!” > > “I’ve never been treated so poorly in my whole life,” McAusland, who recently accepted an executive producer position at [Newsie.com](http://Newsie.com) of Media Convergence Group, said. What a bint. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/148 "2009-11-13T21:17:54Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Then I pit Prejean for going on Larry King and demanding that he not ask questions or take phone calls like he does on every other show he’s ever done in his entire life … which is approximately 800 years, if I’m not mistaken. > > Can’t this moron get a spot on Hannity if she just wants her bunny petted? How about Vivid video? That’d be a good place to pet her bunny. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/149 "2009-11-13T21:22:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Cite that she was given an agreement (an _unprecedented_ agreement) that she wouldn’t have to take calls on the show? > > Prejean has a history of lying through her teeth. Larry King does not have any history of being duplicious with guests. His reputation is just the opposite, that he’s a doormat for them. > > Until you can actually provide some proof that an agreement existed, then I think we have to conclude that the event was just what it looked like – a snotty little non-celebrity having a snit-fit. > > Actually, even if there was an agreement on calls (and I don’t believe for a second that there was, since LK never does that), I still don’t care. I would actually give kudos to LK for NOT honoring such an agreement. So duplicitous double-dealing is honorable as long as it is done for the correct political persuasion? As I read more and more of your posts, the more I realize that you have pretty much no sense of honor whatsoever. It doesn’t matter what shady tactics are used as long as they support some kind of liberal agenda. I think that he shouldn’t have had her on the show if he didn’t want to honor those conditions. But, the reality is, if she had a signed contract stating those terms, she has a lawsuit that she can win. You’re a fuckhead through and through though. You should set your signature to, “It’s ok to lie to people and break contracts as long as liberal politics are being served.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/150 "2009-11-13T21:28:12Z")
There’s no contract here. She was not being financial remunerated for her appearance on the show - it was an opportunity to plug her book. That’s how these things work. I agree that if there was an _agreement_ in place as she claims, Larry acted inappropriately. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/151 "2009-11-13T22:05:25Z")
I don’t think it’s all that unreasonable to dishonor an agreement to get your way against someone who has already proved that they themselves will lie with impunity to serve their own ends. Being honorable against people that will happily stab you in the back is a bit like bringing a knife to a gunfight. Kind of well-meaning, but naive. Not that I believe for a second that such an agreement existed. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/152 "2009-11-13T22:20:11Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > So duplicitous double-dealing is honorable as long as it is done for the correct political persuasion? > > As I read more and more of your posts, the more I realize that you have pretty much no sense of honor whatsoever. It doesn’t matter what shady tactics are used as long as they support some kind of liberal agenda. > > I think that he shouldn’t have had her on the show if he didn’t want to honor those conditions. But, the reality is, if she had a signed contract stating those terms, she has a lawsuit that she can win. > > You’re a fuckhead through and through though. > > You should set your signature to, “It’s ok to lie to people and break contracts as long as liberal politics are being served.” “Liberal” has nothing to do with it. Politics have nothing to do with it. I just don’t think ANY guests should be able to dictate conditions about what they can or cannot be asked about. It’s not political for me, I just despise the way the media panders to celebrities. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/153 "2009-11-13T22:21:32Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > It looks like it was all planned in advance. > > What a bint. Do you have a link for this? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/154 "2009-11-13T22:30:01Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Do you have a link for this? [This](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/blogs/yeas-and-nays/Prejean-threatened-walkout-before-she-stepped-on-set-of-_Larry-King-Live_-8526704.html) appears to be the source. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/155 "2009-11-13T22:36:36Z")
…Wow… ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/156 "2009-11-13T22:48:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > “Liberal” has nothing to do with it. Politics have nothing to do with it. I just don’t think ANY guests should be able to dictate conditions about what they can or cannot be asked about. It’s not political for me, I just despise the way the media panders to celebrities. I had the same issue with Billy Bob Thorton and his country band. “No, I told you I wasn’t taking any questions about my movie career!” Okay, if you want to interview yourself, that’s fine, but you’re dealing with an interviewer. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/157 "2009-11-13T22:50:51Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > [This](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/blogs/yeas-and-nays/Prejean-threatened-walkout-before-she-stepped-on-set-of-_Larry-King-Live_-8526704.html) appears to be the source. Thanks. Wow, what a bitch. I can see why the Miss California people despise her. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/158 "2009-11-13T22:50:52Z")
Hey, if the interview had gone smoothly, everybody woulda forgotten it by now. It’s clearly in Prejean’s interests to make a fuss, it’s not like she’s famous for anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/159 "2009-11-13T22:51:53Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I had the same issue with Billy Bob Thorton and his country band. “No, I told you I wasn’t taking any questions about my movie career!” Okay, if you want to interview yourself, that’s fine, but you’re dealing with an interviewer. Exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294/160 "2009-11-14T00:03:25Z")
Well, if the celebrity media can be trusted, there are eight videos and 30 nude photos, her book tour has been cancelled, and Vivid Entertainment (porn producer) has a legal copy of one of the videos and are preparing to release it. Her publisher can’t be very happy. The religious right doesn’t like to abandon their heroes (unless they catch the gay), but I can’t see how they can continue to prop her up. **[Porn Kings Trying to Release Prejean Sex Tape](http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/porn-kings-trying-to-release-prejean-sex-tape/)** **[Seven More Carrie Prejean Sex Tapes Unearthed](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/carrie-p-20091311)** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-prejean-vs-larry-king-merged-threads/517294.md?page=9)