# Carrie, the new one (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 5, 2002, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315 "2002-11-05T04:09:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/21 "2002-11-05T21:57:03Z")

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“Plug it up! Plug it up!”

In this version, they filled her locker with tampons and wrote “Plug it up!” on the outside of it. This was after she freaked out having her period in gym class.

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**Author:** ![JustPlainBryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@JustPlainBryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustPlainBryan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/22 "2002-11-05T22:40:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AtomicDog \*  
> \*\*I kept hoping that Carrie would hit “Xavier’s School for Gifted Children” when she did her web search. It would have saved a lot of people a lot of heartache. \*\*

You know, this is exactly what I thought about a while ago. I contend that Carrie is in fact a **mutant!!!**

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/23 "2002-11-05T23:33:02Z")

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Oh, Duh! NOW I get it! Mutant… mutter, mutter, mutter…

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sell all your stocks and bonds and invest in iguana leashes - dr. demento

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/24 "2002-11-05T23:33:10Z")

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I didn’t like the ending much either. Regardless of the motive, Carrie is a mass murderer (234 people killed, most of them innocent of any wrong-doing toward Carrie). One can make the argument that she was experiencing a period of temporary insanity, a strong one even, but even in that case this isn’t a person who should be allowed to walk around free.

I read the book a long time ago, and have the movie on dvd, so I’ve been familiar with this story for a long time, and I’ve always found Carrie sympathetic. However, I can’t root for her to get away with it. Events of recent years make that position untenable. She was a persecuted loner who snapped under the pressure and killed her classmates in a fit of rage. She then killed an equal or greater number of people for no other reason than that they were in her way. Were it not that the story was written before the events of the past few years, I’d say it was a pretty good metaphor for such occurrences.

BTW, Stephen King pretty much identifies his characters in Carrie, Firestarter, The Shining, etc. as mutants, and even has a fairly consistent system for explaining their abilities. These abilities are sex linked traits; girls tend to get telekenic powers and boys mental abilities. The ability’s power is linked to the pituitary gland (somehow) and thus peaks during puberty, which is quite similar to Marvel Universe mutants whose powers tend to manifest at puberty.

I wonder which was first with the mutant abilities linked to puberty thing? When was this explanation first offered in the X-men?

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**Author:** ![JustPlainBryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@JustPlainBryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustPlainBryan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/25 "2002-11-05T23:44:56Z")

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Given the recent Carrie events, can we all agree now that mutant registration is necessary?  
😃

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/26 "2002-11-05T23:56:41Z")

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_posted by Number Six_

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> I wonder which was first with the mutant abilities linked to puberty thing? When was this explanation first offered in the X-men?

mid 70’s for both, iirc

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/27 "2002-11-06T00:34:22Z")

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I thought the remake was horrible. The acting was atrocious, bad-TV-drama acting. The evil teens were implausibly evil, instead of just casually cruel (like real teens). Having her mother try to drown her was stupid. The whole movie dragged until the ending, which was anticlimatic. The computer effects were cheesy – the whole thing had the production values of an episode of Dawson’s Creek.

Granted, I did watch the whole thing. But only because I was playing the Sims at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/28 "2002-11-06T01:02:51Z")

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Haven’t seen it, but I’m going to offer an opinion anyway. (Don’t you love the web?)

The less-direct “Plug it up” is pitiful. The vulnerability and trauma really came through in De Palma’s original.

But the “survivor” ending is totally in keeping with the unwritten law of Stephen King adaptations-- principals die in print, walk away happy on celluloid.

You’d think they’d have learned their lesson after remaking _The Shining_.

Why do they go in for do-overs of the few Stephen King books that were adapted successfully? Wouldn’t it make more sense to try and salvage some of the ones that were totally unsatisfactory the first time?

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**Author:** ![Naz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e99b99/32.png) [@Naz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naz)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/29 "2002-11-06T02:34:42Z")

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Haven’t seen this remake, but it sounds lousy.

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> You’d think they’d have learned their lesson after remaking The Shining.

Actually, I liked what I saw of that remake. It was truer to the book. I never cared for Kubrick’s version.

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/30 "2002-11-06T02:47:49Z")

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I thought it sucked so bad that I didn’t even get to the ending. (She lived? WTF?) I haven’t watched the original movie in years but the new one still sucked compared to the first version.

Carrie did not come off as near as sypathetic of a character as she did in the book or the original movie. (That is untill she starts killing everyone)

Her Mom was no where near crazy enough in the remake.

The mean girls were too contrived.

Sue Snell’s reason for having Tommy take Carrie to the Prom was not flushed out enough.

As someone else said, the bathroom-period scene was no where near as powerful as te original. Though I doubt the original idea would make it onto network TV.

Oh, and the acting sucked.

\<hijack\>

Does anyone else feel guilty after reading-watching Carrie. Every time I read the story I am reminded of a girl I went through school with until the 8th grade named Nella. Nella was picked on from first grade until 8th by everyone. I participated in this a couple of times. The boys would pick on her then drop it but the girls were merciless. Every time I read or watch Carrie I want to find Nella, call her up and apologize for being such a shit to her for so many years.

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Slee

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/31 "2002-11-06T03:16:06Z")

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Well, I liked it-if only because the ending was a surprise. I mean, everyone knows Carrie freaked out and such.

But not this time. And I got the feeling she wasn’t aware of what she was doing-she was having convulsions, if you noticed, whenever she freaked and caused damage.

Her mother was nowhere near Piper Laurie’s terrifying Fundy Rambo, but she was more a creepy, low-key Catholic fundy. I mean, she had crucifixes and such around. That was weird.

I liked seeing Chris and her boyfriend get it. HA!!! As for her killing her mother, this was more true to the book-in the book, she stops her mother’s heart.

Well, I guess I’m in the minority.

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**Author:** ![Grasshopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f19dbf/32.png) [@Grasshopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grasshopper)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/32 "2002-11-06T04:04:42Z")

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“Oh-and did anyone else notice that class president was wearing Julia Robert’s Oscar dress?”

Yes! I only saw about fifteen minutes of the movie, but I saw part of the prom and I immediately thought of Julia’s dress when I saw that girl.

What I saw of the movie was okay, but it was very short so I don’t have much of an opinion to offer. I liked Sissy Spacek better than the new Carrie, but for a remake, it didn’t seem too bad.

-dippin “I love my life” dots.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/33 "2002-11-06T05:56:34Z")

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It wasn’t bad considering how bad some of the made-for-TV-Stephen King adaptations have been, but I much prefer the original for the actors and the overall creepy factor.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/34 "2002-11-06T09:24:13Z")

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I still haven’t seen the ending, it’s on the tape at my house, but I do have to say that I was impressed with the shower scene. TV pushed a few boundaries on that one, I’m happy to say.

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**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrie-the-new-one-spoilers/135315/35 "2002-11-06T14:34:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*I got the feeling she wasn’t aware of what she was doing-she was having convulsions, if you noticed, whenever she freaked and caused damage.  
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Oh no :rolleyes: They took away any semblance of responsibility the character had for her own actions? Allah be praised I didn’t see it.

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