# Cartoons **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429 "2003-06-21T16:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sinful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Sinful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinful)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/1 "2003-06-21T16:37:14Z")
I am of the generation that brought cartoons to new levels(cartoons,videogames, sugary cereal with toys in the bottom. . .these are our REAL contributions to society thus far). What happened to Saturday mornings in front of the TV eating Lucky Charms? Today, you’ve got crappy teen comedyies with crappy teen “issues” and not a single freaking, robots in disguise to be found on network televison. Ugghh. Speaking of robots in disguise - even in disguise, they still look like robots - curious, No? Anyway, I want to watch animated animals living with human parents and causing mischeif on my days off - not saved by the bell, the 800th class. ---
**Author:** ![karomon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@karomon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karomon)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/2 "2003-06-21T16:55:09Z")
You get up too late. Those don’t begin until the good stuff ends. Starting at 6:30, we’ve got - “Fighting Foodons” “Yu-gi-oh” “Pokemon” “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Next Generation” (or something) “Ultimate Muscle” “What’s New, Scooby Doo?” “Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego?” “Jackie Chan Adventures” “Megaman: NT Warrior” “The Wild Thornberrys” “Hey Arnold” “Cramp Twins” “Kim Possible” “The Mummy” “Power Rangers Ninja Storm” and “Static Shock” ---
**Author:** ![Sinful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Sinful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinful)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/3 "2003-06-21T17:30:22Z")
[http://tvguide.com/50th/timecapsule…son/2000sat.asp](http://tvguide.com/50th/timecapsule...son/2000sat.asp) eh ---
**Author:** ![Sinful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Sinful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinful)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/4 "2003-06-21T17:31:27Z")
[http://tvguide.com/50th/timecapsule/whatwason/2000sat.asp\*](http://tvguide.com/50th/timecapsule/whatwason/2000sat.asp*) ---
**Author:** ![Intaglio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/71e660/32.png) [@Intaglio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intaglio)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/5 "2003-06-22T12:39:04Z")
Try Cartoon Network. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/6 "2003-06-22T18:27:31Z")
What became of: Popeye Roadrunner Bugs Bunny Rocky & Bullwinkle Dudley Dooright Fractured Fairy Tales Aesop & Son Quick Draw McGraw Yogi Bear Snagglepuss Top Cat Tobor, the 8th Man Now [IB]those[/IB] were cartoons. ---
**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/7 "2003-06-22T19:21:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by danceswithcats \* > \*\*What became of: > Popeye > Roadrunner > Bugs Bunny > Rocky & Bullwinkle > Dudley Dooright > Fractured Fairy Tales > Aesop & Son > Quick Draw McGraw > Yogi Bear > Snagglepuss > Top Cat > Tobor, the 8th Man > > Now [IB]those[/IB] were cartoons. \*\* No props for the Smurfs?? ~J ---
**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/8 "2003-06-22T20:46:39Z")
The Smurfs were lame. ---
**Author:** ![Doc\_Nickel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@Doc\_Nickel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doc_Nickel)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/9 "2003-06-22T20:50:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*What became of: > Popeye > Roadrunner > Bugs Bunny > Rocky & Bullwinkle > (etc) > \*\* Two things: First, those were the original, hand-drawn, hand-painted, cel-based painstakingly-photographed animated movies. Cost killed 'em. Today you pay an artist $35 an hour to paint one cel, or you pay a roomful of Korean kids $35 a week, collectively, to paint enough cels for ten episodes of [iThe Simpsons\*. Also, the old 'toons used, literally, full orchestras for both music and sound effects, and probably two Foleys to boot. Now they’re lucky to have one guy with a synth, a mixer board and a CD of generic sound effects. Again, it’s a cost issue. And second, one of the things that made the old 'toons truly great was, indeed, the mindless violence. People holding sticks of dynamite and watching, dumbfounded, as the fuse burns down. Blasting each other with shotguns. Packing enough explosives under a house so that the floorboards are bulging. Getting hit by trains. Jumping out in the street in front of trucks. Lighting the fuse then crawling into the barrel of a cannon. It’s assumed- and, unfortunately, often proven, RE; the “Jackass” copycat stunts- that viewing such things will encourage kids to go out and try them, and get injured or killed. So violence is out. Top that off with having various advocacy groups saying how awful cartoons are, so now most 'toons have some sort of “message”- promote diversity, don’t resort to violence to solve problems, etc. Which, I suppose, is okay if it’s not overwhelming, and done well (RE _Simpsons_ and not _Captain Planet_.) Long story short, we’ll never see 'toons like the old _Bugs Bunny_ and especially _Road Runner_ ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Trigonal\_Planar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Trigonal\_Planar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trigonal_Planar)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/10 "2003-06-23T05:13:10Z")
Not all toons are like that. Ever seen Dexter’s Lab, or Spongebob Squarepants? I assure you both have mindless violence and completely lack any kind of message! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/11 "2003-06-23T05:25:35Z")
Since the OP asked about it, I’m obligaed to point out that **Transformers: Armada** is currently running on Cartoon Network as part of their Toonami block. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/12 "2003-06-23T05:41:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by danceswithcats \* > \*\*What became of: > Popeye > Roadrunner > Bugs Bunny > Rocky & Bullwinkle > Dudley Dooright > Fractured Fairy Tales > Aesop & Son > Quick Draw McGraw > Yogi Bear > Snagglepuss > Top Cat > Tobor, the 8th Man > > Now [IB]those[/IB] were cartoons. \*\* Amen!!! Those were the BEST!! And I’d like to add the Pink Panther, Auggie Doggie and Daddy Doggie, and HR Puffenstuff too!!! (though HR Puffenstuff wasn’t a cartoon). And who besides me wants to go nuts in a mall with an Uzi upon hearing the “Powerpuff Girls” high pitched squeals? ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/13 "2003-06-23T07:54:35Z")
Whatever happened to **Crusader Rabbit**? Gawd, I’m so OLD! ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/14 "2003-06-23T08:15:58Z")
I think what the OP was talking about is the rather depressing lack of Saturday morning cartoons on the regular broadcast channels. Last time I watched TV on a Saturday morning, it was nothing but morning news shows till about 10 or so, then a couple hours of stupid teen dramedies even worse than _Saved By The Bell_. No cartoons at all. We don’t have cable, nor do we intend to ever get it, so my weekends have been toon-free for several years now. ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/15 "2003-06-23T08:19:17Z")
Kids can watch cartoons whenever they feel like it now; when I had digital cable, there were easily four networks of just cartoons. Why should Saturday morning be something special when it’s more of the same fare they get all week? ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/16 "2003-06-23T08:25:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > **And who besides me wants to go nuts in a mall with an Uzi…** Well, if you’re blonde, 5’6"ish, cute, and most importantly female, then we can go nuts wherever you like. See what they need to do is create cartoons like the movie ‘Heavy Metal’. That would have kept me glued to the TV all day long. Haven’t you heard that if you want your kids to be smart you play classical music? The soundtracks to Bugs Bunny was mostly classical. See, some redeeming value was there. ---
**Author:** ![NoGoodNamesLeft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoGoodNamesLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoGoodNamesLeft)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/17 "2003-06-23T12:07:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Now they’re lucky to have one guy with a synth, a mixer board and a CD of generic sound effects. Again, it’s a cost issue. Actually, The Simpsons does use a full orchestra, and Foley artist. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/18 "2003-06-23T18:16:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*Actually, The Simpsons does use a full orchestra, and Foley artist. \*\* Help me out, here. The only definition of Foley that I’ve ever heard was when I worked in a hospital, and it was a urinary catheter. This requires an artist? ---
**Author:** ![4\_4\_Guy\_of\_Dumbness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/a9a28c/32.png) [@4\_4\_Guy\_of\_Dumbness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4_4_Guy_of_Dumbness)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/19 "2003-06-23T19:59:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by danceswithcats \* > \*\*Help me out, here. The only definition of Foley that I’ve ever heard was when I worked in a hospital, and it was a urinary catheter. This requires an artist? \*\* The Foley artist is the guy who gets paid to stomp on a bag of rice or punch a steak in order to produce sound effects. He Who Am addressed the topic in one of his [stone tablets](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_012.html), right after the commandment about turkey bacon. ---
**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429/20 "2003-06-23T20:05:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DAVEW0071 \* > \*\*The Smurfs were lame. \*\* I dunno … I always thought Brainy Smurf was kinda cute. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cartoons/183429.md?page=2)