# Cascadia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 28, 2000, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835 "2000-03-28T17:02:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/1 "2000-03-28T17:02:00Z")

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Has anyone heard of the concept of Cascadia, thought up as a unique country consisting of southwestern BC, as well as Washington and Oregon?

I believe the idea is that these geographical areas have a somewhat unique society that is not pandered to by current national governments either economically or representatively.

I haven’t heard anything about it since I saw a movie on it in grade 10 (4 years ago).

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/2 "2000-03-28T17:12:00Z")

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Well, “Cascadia” is an environmental bioregion. That is, portions of the Pac NW (BC, WA, and OR) share a common flavor of climate, topography, and weather. As such it is know as Cascadia to ecologists, environmentalists and greenies.

It’s also called Cascadia by many folks to differentiate it from the US Pacific Northwest or the Canadian Pacific Southwest–that is, to refer to the region without reference to national or state borders, and also to differentiate it fromt he rest of the inland west (the high desert of Eastern WA and OR and Idaho).

But the “Sovreign Nation of Cascadia?” Never heard of it. My guess is that it’s a radical-left pipedream even less feasable than an independent Texas and as ludicrous in concept as the Nation of Deseret.

-andros-

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/3 "2000-03-28T17:13:00Z")

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[http://www.nationalreview.com/28july97/fleming072897.html](http://www.nationalreview.com/28july97/fleming072897.html)

Go down about 9 paragraphs - is this what you’re talking about?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/4 "2000-03-28T17:41:00Z")

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From the above link (thanks, **Missy** ):

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> others dream of being part of Cascadia, a new nation that would include Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia. Cascadians are economic and environmental snobs, but their movement is also driven by the mass migration of Asians into the Pacific Northwest.

As I said, a radical-left pipedream.

I don’t see any portion of the US seceeding in my lifetime. Hell, Quebec still hasn’t managed to seceed from Canada, and everybody _wants_ them to leave. (That was a joke. Really.)

-andros-

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/5 "2000-03-28T17:53:00Z")

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> Originally posted by andros:  
> \*\*From the above link (thanks, **Missy** ):
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> > [@](#):
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> > others dream of being part of Cascadia, a new nation that would include Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia. Cascadians are economic and environmental snobs, but their movement is also driven by the mass migration of Asians into the Pacific Northwest.
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> As I said, a radical-left pipedream.
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> I don’t see any portion of the US seceeding in my lifetime. Hell, Quebec still hasn’t managed to seceed from Canada, and everybody _wants_ them to leave. (That was a joke. Really.)
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> -andros-\*\*

What about alaska? Isn’t there a significant movement for the secession of Alaska?

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**Author:** ![SingleDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@SingleDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleDad)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/6 "2000-03-29T06:33:00Z")

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Also see “Ecotopia” by Ernest Callenbach (ISBN: 0553348477) (Northern California, Oregeon and Washington, I think).

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/7 "2000-03-28T22:22:00Z")

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Ironically, when the whole “Sovereign Republic of Texas” debacle hit the news a couple of years ago, Texas had _just_ launched a new P.R. campaign to boot tourism. The P.R. campaign’s slogan? “Texas: It’s Like a Whole Other Country”!

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/8 "2000-03-28T22:30:00Z")

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Er, **boost** tourism, not “boot tourism”.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/9 "2000-03-29T00:10:00Z")

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> Originally posted by tracer:  
> Er, **boost** tourism, not “boot tourism”.

I dunno. Given the Texans I’ve met, just because they want to do one, doesn’t mean they don’t want to do the other… 🙂  
-Steve

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**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cascadia/17835/10 "2000-03-29T00:29:00Z")

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