# Case files? We don't need no stinking case files! (Gitmo related) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097 "2009-01-26T19:11:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/241 "2009-01-29T22:56:06Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Right, like you’re really a public defender. Probably a seat licker in the public defender’s bathroom or something. Dude, if there’s one job you don’t brag about having, it’s being a public defender! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/242 "2009-01-29T23:05:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > The messageboard of your dreams sounds like an awfully boring place. As long as you’re not on it, I think we’ll survive. Also, for all the posting you’re doing here, there are tax cheats and throbbing burritos crying for your attention. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/243 "2009-01-29T23:17:18Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Also, for all the posting you’re doing here, there are tax cheats and throbbing burritos crying for your attention. With scrotums on one end or, as is increasingly apparent, both ends. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/244 "2009-01-29T23:18:36Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Luci, your “sobbing in your beer” post reads almost exactly like one someone posted in the thread I started about why SDMB posters always say a politician lied without even asserting that he knowingly said something false and even when what he more provably did is bad enough. > > I guess nuance is impossible for some people. Every post must be “bush bad” or “bush good” or Þhey aren’t interested. Anyone who posts about anything else is discussing a side issue and is being willfully blind to the main point. > > The messageboard of your dreams sounds like an awfully boring place. Oh, horseshit! If you could answer the arguments, you would, your hunger to be taken seriously is embarrassingly transparent. Failing that, and failing miserably, you attack personalities and posting styles, as if somehow that might make the ugly truth disappear. You are an impotent man demanding a starring role in a porno movie. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/245 "2009-01-29T23:28:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, horseshit! If you could answer the arguments, you would, your hunger to be taken seriously is embarrassingly transparent. Failing that, and failing miserably, you attack personalities and posting styles, as if somehow that might make the ugly truth disappear. > > You are an impotent man demanding a starring role in a porno movie. Horseshit yourself. If YOU could answer MY argument, then you would. Instead, you attack what you think my position is onm the larger issue or you attack me personally based on my views. The problem is that if a poster doesn’t share your views on the larger issue, then you don’t want to hear anything they have to say on the subject even if the larger issue isn’t implicated. And I couldn’t care less whether you “take me seriously.”. I post here for my own amusement and will stop when I am no longer amused. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/246 "2009-01-29T23:37:19Z")
Then yours is the most strenuous and bombastic display of indifference I’ve ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/247 "2009-01-29T23:48:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Then yours is the most strenuous and bombastic display of indifference I’ve ever seen. You misapprehend my motivation (which is only one item on a long lis of your misapprehensions). Just because I answer people when they say I’m not a lawyer doesn’t mean I want people to take me seriously. Also, what’s with all the insinuations that I’m gay? I thought Ýou liberal douches were abpove the common “fag” insult. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/248 "2009-01-29T23:59:24Z")
Tell you what, you point one out, and I’ll try to explain it to you. Best I can tell, you are accused of being a braggart and a pettifogger, but your sexual preferences are not referenced. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/249 "2009-01-30T00:09:25Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You misapprehend my motivation (which is only one item on a long lis of your misapprehensions). Just because I answer people when they say I’m not a lawyer doesn’t mean I want people to take me seriously. > > Also, what’s with all the insinuations that I’m gay? I thought Ýou liberal douches were abpove the common “fag” insult. I’ve seen no insinuation that you’re gay. **Lucy** compared you to an impotent man by way of analogy, but that’s not even really an insinuation of impotence, much less homosexuality. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/250 "2009-01-30T00:13:13Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Also, what’s with all the insinuations that I’m gay? I thought Ýou liberal douches were abpove the common “fag” insult. I’m not. Fag. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/251 "2009-01-30T00:17:02Z")
Running dog jackal of the ruling class fag! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/252 "2009-01-30T00:17:42Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > 1. Aw, your so cute when you’re embarrassed. > > 2. My boat called and told me to tell you to tell your car to suck it. Sorry, bubbe. When you get offered a slip at the New York Yacht Club, your boat can talk to my boat. Unless, of course, it’s a stinkpot. (You didn’t ever notice I played the boat card before you, did you? Try harder.) ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/253 "2009-01-30T00:21:44Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’ve seen no insinuation that you’re gay. **Lucy** compared you to an impotent man by way of analogy, but that’s not even really an insinuation of impotence, much less homosexuality. Luci hasn’t called me gay–I’m talking about the throbbing burrito with a scrotum references. And Miller I know you’re gay, so your trollish attempt to rile me up has failed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/254 "2009-01-30T00:24:32Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > …And Miller I know you’re gay, so your trollish attempt to rile me up has failed. Man, what a straight line. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/255 "2009-01-30T00:28:40Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > This is patently retarded. So every OP should only be discussed based on one’s biews on the larger issue? I don’t think you’ll find much support for this notion, even among your fellow liberal douches. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I guess nuance is impossible for some people. Every post must be “bush bad” or “bush good” or Þhey aren’t interested. Anyone who posts about anything else is discussing a side issue and is being willfully blind to the main point. **Rand** , do you see how others on this message board might see this as arguing both sides of the same argument (not the argument in the OP, mind you - Jesus, I’m going to have to spell this out for you aren’t I). Quote 1 - We should only discuss _exactly_ what is in the OP Quote 2 - When I want to disucss beyond the OP, you idiots aren’t interested. btw, **luci** has you nailed (no, that’s not a gay reference). I know, I know…liberal douche, too stupid to post here, blah blah blah. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/256 "2009-01-30T00:37:17Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > **Rand** , do you see how others on this message board might see this as arguing both sides of the same argument (not the argument in the OP, mind you - Jesus, I’m going to have to spell this out for you aren’t I). > > Quote 1 - We should only discuss _exactly_ what is in the OP > > Quote 2 - When I want to disucss beyond the OP, you idiots aren’t interested. > > btw, **luci** has you nailed (no, that’s not a gay reference). > > I know, I know…liberal douche, too stupid to post here, blah blah blah. Christ, what a transparent and bad attempt to salvage an argument you lost. Just chalk this one up as a learning experience and move on. The OP of this thread brings up a side issue (whether there are CCFs and whether it’s bad if there aren’t) of the main issue (the whole detainee situation). I’m saying in boyth of those quotes that it’s OK to discuss the side issue without discussing the main issue. Those quotes aren’t contradictory at all, and you don’Þ make even a passable attempt at demonstrating they are. You lost this round bud, no big deal. Just move on. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/257 "2009-01-30T00:39:27Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Luci hasn’t called me gay–I’m talking about the throbbing burrito with a scrotum references. > > And Miller I know you’re gay, so your trollish attempt to rile me up has failed. You’re the one who assumed my perfectly legitimate foie gras burrito link was a penis. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, bud. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/258 "2009-01-30T00:43:24Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And Miller I know you’re gay, so your trollish attempt to rile me up has failed. I guess it’s true: conservatives really don’t have a sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/259 "2009-01-30T00:47:29Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You lost this round bud, no big deal. Just move on. Another WIN for Rand Rover! That continues your undefeated streak! ---
**Author:** ![Gam\_Zeh\_Yaavor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@Gam\_Zeh\_Yaavor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gam_Zeh_Yaavor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097/260 "2009-01-30T00:50:44Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Christ, what a transparent and bad attempt to salvage an argument you lost. Just chalk this one up as a learning experience and move on. > > The OP of this thread brings up a side issue (whether there are CCFs and whether it’s bad if there aren’t) of the main issue (the whole detainee situation). I’m saying in boyth of those quotes that it’s OK to discuss the side issue without discussing the main issue. Those quotes aren’t contradictory at all, and you don’Þ make even a passable attempt at demonstrating they are. > > You lost this round bud, no big deal. Just move on. False dichotomy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/case-files-we-dont-need-no-stinking-case-files-gitmo-related/483097.md?page=14)