# Cases Where the Movie Version Has Taken Over **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [May 17, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711 "2024-05-17T18:16:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/161 "2024-05-23T18:26:16Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > Speaking of visual depictions --aren’t the traditional folklore depictions of werewolves of humans transforming _entirely_ into a wolf? > > If i remember correctly the bipedal “wolfman” form is entirely a Hollywood creation. Can someone correct me if I a wrong? Interestingly enough, I wrote a whole webpage about just this topic. Enjoy: > **[Secrets of the Wolfman](https://srichardwilkcom.wordpress.com/secrets-of-the-wolfman/)** > >   Lon Chaney Jr. As Larry Talbot, the Wolf Man As a Boomer, I grew up in the cultural fallout of the 1940s — the cartoons I watched, many of the movies I saw on TV, much of the fiction I… ---
**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/162 "2024-05-23T18:34:03Z")
_Infinite Jest_, the book that everyone bought but few finished, was much more digestible as a movie. Joaquin Phoenix and Carey Mulligan cut through the weeds and made it the wry romantic comedy it wanted to be. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/163 "2024-05-23T18:43:06Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Do vampires inject a clotting liquid, because you never see someone who is bitten in these productions spouting blood from a punctured vessel after the vamp feeds. If they’re like insect blood-suckers they’d generate an _anti_-clotting liquid, because they want the blood to remain liquid. As long as they don’t bite into an artery they’re pretty safe from great pressurized spouts of blood. I suspect that, like vampire bats, they restrict themselves to capillaries and venous blod.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/164 "2024-05-23T18:50:54Z")
On the TV show **Supernatural** vampires have retractable fangs that emerge from their upper gums. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/165 "2024-05-23T19:00:26Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > His eyebrows were very massive, almost meeting over the nose, and with **bushy hair that seemed to curl in its own profusion**. The mouth, so far as I could see it under the **heavy moustache** , was fixed and rather cruel-looking, with peculiarly sharp white teeth So the movies (or some previous stage version) made Dracula straight-haired and clean-shaven? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/166 "2024-05-23T19:15:29Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > So the movies (or some previous stage version) made Dracula straight-haired and clean-shaven? Particularly the classic Bela Lugosi movie, which started the oft-repeated depiction of vampires with brylcreem hair. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/167 "2024-05-23T19:22:58Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > So the movies (or some previous stage version) made Dracula straight-haired and clean-shaven? The “bushy hair” is referring to his eyebrows. Look at the earlier description: > aquiline, with high bridge of the thin nose and peculiarly arched nostrils; with lofty domed forehead, and hair growing scantily round the temples but profusely elsewhere. That sort of describes the historical Vlad the Impaler. But it closely resembles Bram Stoker’s boss, Henry Irving. Stoker had hoped to adapt the novel for the stage, with Irving playing the title role. Many of their contemporaries stated that the relationship between Dracula and Renfield strongly resembled the relationship between Irving and Stoker. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/168 "2024-05-23T19:49:26Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > The “bushy hair” is referring to his eyebrows. Yeah, but then comes the bit where it said _“The mouth, so far as I could see it under the heavy moustache, was fixed and rather cruel-looking”_. ---
**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/169 "2024-05-23T19:55:36Z")
.Uh oh, I seem to have stumbled into some kind of Monster a Go-Go. Carry on while I change channels. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/170 "2024-05-23T20:04:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > > > Anything Disney. > > The issue with Disney is that they take old fairy tales etc- and sanitize them . But- there are so many old versions of Snow White, Sleeping beauty etc, that pretty much anything goes, Not just fairy tales, though. > **[Disney / Disneyfication - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Disneyfication/Disney)** > > Disney, being the Trope Namer and Trope Codifier for Disneyfication, frequently does this for their movies and works, especially ones that are based on a pre-existing story. The story of The Three Little Pigs originally had the first two pigs … They even Disneyfied [a true crime story.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheNorthAvenueIrregulars) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/171 "2024-05-23T21:03:12Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > They even Disneyfied …Walt Disney himself in _Saving Mr Banks_. They also Disneyfied the events depicted in the movie. It’s Disneyfied all the way down. I still like the movie, though. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/172 "2024-05-24T02:28:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@Skywatcher](#): > > > > They even Disneyfied > > …Walt Disney himself in _Saving Mr Banks_. Notably, by never showing his well-known three-pack-a-day smoking habit. To their credit, the filmmakers found a cleverly winking way around this: Travers walks in on Disney hastily stubbing out a cigarette, and he explains that he doesn’t like to let people see him smoking since it “encourages bad habits.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/173 "2024-05-24T04:21:48Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Notably, by never showing his well-known three-pack-a-day smoking habit. To their credit, the filmmakers found a cleverly winking way around this: Travers walks in on Disney hastily stubbing out a cigarette, and he explains that he doesn’t like to let people see him smoking since it “encourages bad habits.” Which was true. His Wife, Lillian, insisted that Walt never smoked around kids. Of course in his office- puff away. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/174 "2024-05-24T13:49:09Z")
I like Stephen King’s take on the werewolf character in _The Talisman_: the guy gets more hairy and feral the closer to full moon. At new moon, he is almost totally “normal” and as the lunar cycle progresses, he gets more and more wolf-ish. Maybe it’s that last sliver of Tycho crater that sends him over the edge on day 28? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/175 "2024-05-24T15:54:55Z")
Of you find yourself at Disneyland, if you take a close look at their framed photos of Walt walking around Disneyland, he’ll be pointing at things with two fingers. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/176 "2024-05-24T23:05:41Z")
Did they airbrush the cigarettes out of the photos, or leave them in? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/177 "2024-05-25T06:43:20Z")
They removed every cigarette. In _Saving Mr. Banks_, they never actually show Walt smoking, but they do include his signature cough, which he’d purposefully do to let his employees know he’s cooking dish the hall (except it wasn’t entirely voluntary). My contribution to the thread topic: _The Hundred and One Dalmatians_ by Dodie Smith. In the Disney adaptation, the parent dogs are Pongo and Perdita and there are 99 puppies. In the book, it’s Pongo and Missis and there are 98 puppies. The 101st dalmatian is Perdita, a liver-spotted adult female brought in as a wet nurse who stays behind with the humans when the two parent dogs go to the rescue. Meshing the two adult rehashed dogs is one of many wise simplifications. Combining characters is fairly common. For example, Tyler Perry’s lawyer character in _Gone Girl_ is a mashup of the white lawyer in the novel, and the (awesome) black woman he’s married to (who does the real work). ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/178 "2024-05-25T14:48:29Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The first screen vampire I can recall having such teeth is Christopher Lee in his many Hammer films as Dracula, starting with **Horror of Dracula** (called simply “Dracula” in the UK) in 1958. The 1922 Nosferatu had some long pointy teeth, but it looks like they were all that way- not the two canine fangs that became the standard: [![](https://www.peoplesworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/NosferatuScreenShot.jpg) ](https://www.peoplesworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/NosferatuScreenShot.jpg) ETA: never mind, I just now noticed you mentioned that example already 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/179 "2024-05-25T15:13:21Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > he’s cooking dish the hall Huh?? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711/180 "2024-05-25T15:23:54Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > In _Saving Mr. Banks_, they never actually show Walt smoking, but they do include his signature cough, which he’d purposefully do to let his employees know he’s cooking dish the hall (except it wasn’t entirely voluntary). I am genuinely interested in a translation of “cooking dish” in this context. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cases-where-the-movie-version-has-taken-over/1001711.md?page=10)