# Casey Anthony . Guilty or not ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 3, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745 "2011-07-03T20:04:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/81 "2011-07-05T13:14:18Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I know nothing about this case. I voted guilty because if she’s found innocent we’ll be hearing about her for years to come.

If, by some freak of nature, Casey gets off, she’s headed for a life of infamy. She’s destroyed her family and any life they will ever have. All of them will need to move deep within the Antarctic to find a minute of peace.

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**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/82 "2011-07-05T15:38:30Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> She’s destroyed her family and any life they will ever have. All of them will need to move deep within the Antarctic to find a minute of peace.

Poor Cindy. Cindy lost her granddaughter, Cindy lost her daughter, Cindy lost her husband, Cindy lost her job, Cindy lost her reputation, and Cindy might be going to prison for 15 years for perjury.

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/83 "2011-07-05T15:53:07Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> In fact, the defense’s whole “she was molested!” idea of defense certainly WAS used to confuse the jury. What was that supposed to do? Make people think, “oh, if she was molested, let her go” kind of thing?

The point of the molestation accusation was to try to give her some motive for acting so strangely after the “accidental drowning”. Baez tried to say that she’s been hiding her pain her whole life, so it comes second nature to her, and that’s why she went out partying, got a “Bella Vita” tattoo, and wrote journal entries about how she was the happiest she’d ever been.

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**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/84 "2011-07-05T16:13:45Z")

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> [@Turble](#):
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> I’ll make up a story for ya:
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> The sex abuse story was true. George had also been abusing the baby. On that morning the little girl, who was beginning to talk, startled him by saying something like “Tell Mommy I suck it good.”…  
> George comes under fire, one of his dirty little secrets is going to be exposed. He takes a few pills, drinks a beer, and writes a dramatic ‘suicide’ note that clears everyone but Casey. He gets on the stand, puts out some phony tears, says things that implicate Casey but don’t match what the rest of his family says. “Hey, she was the one with the baby. One and one is two.” He walks off the stand, making the motion of washing his hands toward his daughter. End of story.
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> I could make up a lot more stories that fit the evidence at least as well as the official state theory.

Makes a lot more sense than both the other stories put up by the prosecution and the defense.

Your story seems to pretty much fit most of the pieces together with no loose ends,

EXCEPT: your story does not explain Roy Kronk messing with the body several times in August, November, and December, and your story also does not explain why nobody driving by or walking their dog smelled and found the dead body just 19 feet from the road, does not explain why Roy Kronk did not walk 5 feet to pick up the skull and then call Nancy Grace to collect his $250,000.00 reward, and your story also does not explain why the other searchers in that tiny piece of woods, not once but twice did not find the body.

You need to come up with a good reason why that body was not found by anybody except Roy Kronk nor does your story explain away what Roy Kronk did with/to the body during those 3 months.

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/85 "2011-07-05T16:27:28Z")

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So George is a criminal mastermind, and luckily for him Casey had been lying for years, went out and celebrated, and kept up the story about the nanny until the trial when she figured OK, I might as well finally tell the truth about George molesting me and an accidental drowning.

I doubt the prosecution’s scenario is 100% accurate, but guess what? It doesn’t have to be. Casey is obviously guilty as sin: did you listen to any of her phone conversations after she was in jail? Like the one where her mom tells her the “newest story” in the media is that the kid drowned in the pool, to which Casey rolls her eyes and says “surprise, surprise.”?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/86 "2011-07-05T17:31:22Z")

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Verdict Reached. Will be announced at 2:15 EST

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/87 "2011-07-05T17:36:57Z")

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10 hours is pretty fast. Is that an indication that the verdict won’t be first degree?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/88 "2011-07-05T17:40:28Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> You mean if the juror knows something that puts him at odds with other jurors that he can’t express it ?

> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> Apparently it would make him a witness.
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> From what I understand, that’s the reason for the argument against letting the jurors smell the air in the can. If one of them says, “I’ve smelled dead bodies and they don’t smell like that”, they’re a witness. Their opinion is given more weight than other jurors’ opinions. Or something like that…

IIRC one of the jurors is a retired nurse who even mentioned during voir dire that she’d smelled dead bodies.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/89 "2011-07-05T17:43:19Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Verdict Reached. Will be announced at 2:15 EST

Oooooh. That quick, eh? Usually not a good sign for the defendant…

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/90 "2011-07-05T17:48:37Z")

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> [@Susanann](#):
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> your story also does not explain why nobody driving by or walking their dog smelled and found the dead body just 19 feet from the road.

You’ve made this comment several times in this thread. It’s a silly argument. I can’t tell you how many time I’ve smelled decomposition while riding my motorcycle. Have you ever smelled a dead deer while driving by in the open air? That smell has never made me think, “Huh that must be a murdered little girl. I’d better stop and tromp around through the mud to investigate.”

Every time I’ve smelled it, I just assume it’s road kill and keep going.

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**Author:** ![AntiCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@AntiCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AntiCoyote)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/91 "2011-07-05T17:52:02Z")

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I think she’ll be found guilty of 1st degree murder, but they usually don’t give women death no matter how cruel the crime is. So she’ll be in prison for life.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/92 "2011-07-05T18:01:54Z")

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Verdict is in, will be announced at 2:15 Eastern. I think she’ll be found guilty of Capital Murder, with a sentencing phase to start fairly soon, where the jury would decide on the death penalty.

ETA: this is redundant now, did not see the earlier announcement upthread prior to posting.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/93 "2011-07-05T18:05:58Z")

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She deserves the death penalty.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/94 "2011-07-05T18:19:57Z")

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Not Guilty. Sure glad I’m not a citizen of Florida. She’s going home with a clear conscious.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/95 "2011-07-05T18:20:28Z")

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i’ll be damned.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/96 "2011-07-05T18:20:31Z")

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I’m stunned. 😕

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/97 "2011-07-05T18:20:32Z")

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Quite a turn of events…

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/98 "2011-07-05T18:21:05Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> I think she will be found guilty on all three counts, but from what I’ve seen I think the prosecution has only proved the “misleading the police” charge.

What can I say, I was wrong. Smart jury, though. 😉

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/99 "2011-07-05T18:24:00Z")

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I’m not all that surprised. There wasn’t really any hard evidence of how she killed the kid, although it is quite clear from a common sense viewpoint (to me) that she’s guilty as sin. I don’t blame the jury at all.

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casey-anthony-guilty-or-not/587745/100 "2011-07-05T18:25:57Z")

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By the way, I think the prosecution did a great job for what little evidence they were provided.

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