# Cashiers aren't allowed to count their tills anymore because.... WHAT?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2003, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763 "2003-08-31T05:03:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/61 "2003-09-01T23:23:24Z")

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Don’t mention it. You’re quite welcome.

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**Author:** ![frank\_zafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@frank\_zafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frank_zafka)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/62 "2003-09-02T00:30:26Z")

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As this has become a hopeless hijack I’ll continue…I’ve dealt with Walmart’s buyers and purchasing agents in China. As a matter of fact I sell to them. I can say with certainty it would e impossible to do any business with them under the conditions the DtC describes. The reasons being twofold: the volumes that WM requires for a product precludes anything but a relatively modern, safe and efficient manufacturing capability. When they want 5,000,000 of even the most modest trinket, a well-managed factory must be in operation. Using slave labor will result in massive waste and quality problems and a lost opportunity to do business with them again. The second condition with doing business with them is having to pass an inspection with regards to employee compensation, safety, etc. Although these inspections are ludicrously easy they will not tolerate any of the conditions that are currently being propounded by a few of our more enlightened posters.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/63 "2003-09-02T00:38:50Z")

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Bullshit.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/64 "2003-09-02T01:04:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by frank zafka \*  
> \*\*As this has become a hopeless hijack I’ll continue…I’ve dealt with Walmart’s buyers and purchasing agents in China. As a matter of fact I sell to them. I can say with certainty it would e impossible to do any business with them under the conditions the DtC describes. The reasons being twofold: the volumes that WM requires for a product precludes anything but a relatively modern, safe and efficient manufacturing capability. When they want 5,000,000 of even the most modest trinket, a well-managed factory must be in operation. Using slave labor will result in massive waste and quality problems and a lost opportunity to do business with them again. The second condition with doing business with them is having to pass an inspection with regards to employee compensation, safety, etc. Although these inspections are ludicrously easy they will not tolerate any of the conditions that are currently being propounded by a few of our more enlightened posters. \*\*

This post brought to you by the Wal-Mart Public Relations Office.

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**Author:** ![frank\_zafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@frank\_zafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frank_zafka)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/65 "2003-09-02T01:09:30Z")

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DtC–If ever a reply resounded more clearly upon its poster. Well, any further exploitation of this issue will leave me a slave to my computer and preclude me from whipping my poor little Chinese drones into a glistening sweat as they chant forlornly for their previous life of absolute poverty and unlimited happiness.  
Next time you’re in China–as you seem to be completely versed first hand on the situation, I assume you visit regularly, look me up. I’d be happy to take you on a tour.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/66 "2003-09-02T01:19:15Z")

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You’re a corporate shill, though, aren’t you?

Why wouldn’t you defend Wal-Mart? You get paid to sell their crap to China, after all.

What do you have to say about all the unfair labor practice lawsuits that your company has lost?

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**Author:** ![frank\_zafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@frank\_zafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frank_zafka)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/67 "2003-09-02T01:46:58Z")

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DtC, What the fuck are you talking about? I do not work for Walmart and I’ve never been sued for unfair labor practices. Read my first post closely a second time. I own/rent a number of factories in China who supply several large international corps. with product. Another little tidbit for you–I also supply a number of supposedly “environmental friendly and conscious” corporations out of the same shop as WM.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/68 "2003-09-02T02:03:54Z")

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OK, so you’re a shill for the Chinese government. My mistake.

Do you flat out deny that China uses slave labor and/or sweatshops?

Do you deny that American companies profit from that labor?

Isn’t the Chinese government still kind of evil?

Won’t your Chinese overlords kill you if you dare to speak the truth?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/69 "2003-09-02T06:26:00Z")

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I for one welcome our Ant Overlords.

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**Author:** ![TaxGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TaxGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TaxGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/70 "2003-09-03T14:41:41Z")

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God, DtC, your fuckheadedness really knows no bounds, does it?

Someone disagrees with you and you automatically call them a corporate shill. You are just so damn sure of your point of view that you find it impossible to accept any evidence to the contrary. That’s really sad. I hope lots of people read this thread and then never believe your bullshit again.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/71 "2003-09-03T16:16:04Z")

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FriarTed: What was that SciFi series of stories that had the ants taking over the world, the humans referred to by the robots as Websters, and some kind of teleportation between worlds by going through a type of closet?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/72 "2003-09-03T20:15:47Z")

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Ah, WalMart!

I don’t give a fuck where the shit comes from or who is whipped to death to make it. I save a few bucks and can take it back after I break it on purpose and get a new one. So there!

I’m guessing Mr. “Bullshit” was turned down for a job or credit and is just pissed! 😃

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How is Rap like Porn? Both are better with the sound turned off.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/73 "2003-09-03T21:48:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*OK, so you’re a shill for the Chinese government. My mistake.
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> Do you flat out deny that China uses slave labor and/or sweatshops?
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> Do you deny that American companies profit from that labor?
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> Isn’t the Chinese government still kind of evil?  
> \*\*

Well, at least it’s stopped beating it’s wife.

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**Author:** ![Yumanite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b487fb/32.png) [@Yumanite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumanite)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/74 "2003-09-03T21:59:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*FriarTed: What was that SciFi series of stories that had the ants taking over the world, the humans referred to by the robots as Websters, and some kind of teleportation between worlds by going through a type of closet? \*\*

If I may answer for the friar, I believe you’re thinking of **City** , by Clifford Simak.

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**Author:** ![Nesyut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@Nesyut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nesyut)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/75 "2003-09-03T23:03:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mascaroni \*  
> \*\*It’s UK subsiduary, ASDA is a [different story…](http://www.ananova.com/business/story/sm_550924.html?menu=) \*\*

I’m unsure about how ASDA treats employees, but a while back the Norwich ASDA store got caught for lying about their rollback pledges - several items that had notices for the prices being rolled back were actually the same price pre-pledge.

Cite: [BBC News article](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1555149.stm).

Although the infringement was covered in more detail in the Eastern Daily Press (local newspaper), their online archive does not have the articles in question.

Looks like ASDA has shared the same corporate policies as Wal-Mart. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/76 "2003-09-04T04:49:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Yumanite \*  
> \*\*If I may answer for the friar, I believe you’re thinking of **City** , by Clifford Simak. \*\*

Actually, I’m pretty sure it was a Simpsons reference.

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**Author:** ![ThatDuckIsEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@ThatDuckIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThatDuckIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/77 "2003-09-04T17:13:24Z")

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Thea has long since disappeared from this hijacked thread but I do hope she comes back so that she may answer this {or any other Wally World Employee may answer}:

What is the Wal Mart policy on writing a check at your store? (Do you think it differs at each establishment?) Would it be possible there to, oh, say, write a check for over $800 and not have to show any identification? And lets say it turns out that the person writing that $800 check FORGED it from a pack of stolen checks, what do you think would happen to the Wal Mart employee who let it go through and let that person leave the store with probably two carts full of merchandise?? They’ll both get a special place in hell, I’m certain, but what kind of immediate steps would be taken to correct that employee’s expensive lack of follow-through?

Please let me in on the process, so that, if it at least involves a firing, I may envision that employee bawling her little eyes out as I fall asleep every night.

I need this. Oh please, I need it badly. It happened years ago, but every time I think about it…it…it…flames…FLAMES…on the side of my face…heaving breaths…heaving…

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/78 "2003-09-04T17:21:58Z")

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Oh, hush, Patsy, and have another drink.

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**Author:** ![ThatDuckIsEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@ThatDuckIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThatDuckIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/79 "2003-09-04T19:39:11Z")

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I thought you’d never ask, sweetie-darling 😉  
(that was my Madeline Kahn impression, BTW)

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cashiers-arent-allowed-to-count-their-tills-anymore-because-what/198763/80 "2003-09-04T19:59:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bad News Baboon \*  
> \*\*What really grates on my nerves, however, are the people that shop there, knowing what a bunch of jerks (to put it rather mildly) Walmart is. I long for the day when it comes crahing down like K-mart. \*\*

I wish I could afford to live up to your standards of moral integrity, but my account balance forbids me to get groceries anywhere else in town. Never fear, though, I gleefully vandalize the place each time I visit.

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