# Cast A Song of Ice & Fire/the next seasons of GAME OF THRONES

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
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**No unboxed spoilers about the plots, please**.

There are many characters either yet to be introduced or who’ve been introduced but yet to become major who could be recast. Feel free to recast an already cast role.

My picks:

Stannis Barratheon: [Mark Sheppard](http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/14800000/Crowley-supernatural-14811936-1600-2000.jpg), recently seen as Crowley on _Supernatural_ for those who watch that show. He has the right arrogance and that twinkle he gets as Crowley could be contained.

Davos Seaworth: [Russell Crowe](http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/00023636.jpg). I’m pretty sure he’d be unavailable pricewise, but then we’re not really submitting a list for consideration.

[Melisandre](http://onlyinhighheels.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sofia-milos.jpg): Sophia Milos. I’m not that familiar with her acting but it’s how I picture her.

Jacquen Hazar: [Ghassan Massoud](http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eSPgTb9Na8fh/610x.jpg), best known perhaps for Saladin in _Kingdom of Heaven_

Brienne of Tarth stumps me. Such a shame [Diane Delano](http://celebritysurgery.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Diane-Delano.jpg) is too old for the part; she’s a bit too attractive age but could be “uglied up”.

Of course a quick google shows I’m far from the only person who pictured Patrick Stewart for Tywin Lannister.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/2 "2011-07-01T17:51:17Z")

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Craster - Ron Pearlman  
Oberyn Martel - James Purefoy

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/3 "2011-07-01T20:50:54Z")

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[Titus Welliver](http://i.imgur.com/Xybig.jpg) for Stannis Baratheon

[Clea Duvall](http://i.imgur.com/ven54.jpg) for Brienne of Tarth

[Robert Carlyle](http://i.imgur.com/7wCg2.jpg) for Davos Seaworth

A fun one:  
[Terry Gilliam](http://i.imgur.com/rju0w.jpg) (ala Old Man from Scene 24) for Craster

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/4 "2011-07-01T21:05:25Z")

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[Brad Dourif](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2376251904/nm0000374) as Roose Bolton.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/5 "2011-07-01T21:08:32Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> [Titus Welliver](http://i.imgur.com/Xybig.jpg) for Stannis Baratheon

Really good one. Also looks a lot like Mark Addy (except younger and slimmer obviously) who played Robert. Plus HBO should have his number from when he was on DEADWOOD. 😉

> [@DigitalC](#):
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> [Brad Dourif](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2376251904/nm0000374) as Roose Bolton.

I can see that; I could see him as Craster as well. I pictured [David Thewliss](http://images.wikia.com/harrypotter/images/a/a9/David_Thewlis_1.jpg) as Bolton because for some reason I can see him as a leeching addict.

Ron Perlman is almost a shoe-in to play some Wildling. Or perhaps Qorin Halfhand.

Littlefinger was well cast in the series, but I keep picturing him played by [Christopher Guest](http://images2.makefive.com/images/entertainment/movies/best-christopher-guest-movie/the-princess-bride-7.gif) in the books.

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/6 "2011-07-01T21:11:51Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> **No unboxed spoilers about the plots, please**.
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> There are many characters either yet to be introduced or who’ve been introduced but yet to become major who could be recast. Feel free to recast an already cast role.
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> My picks:
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> Stannis Barratheon: [Mark Sheppard](http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/14800000/Crowley-supernatural-14811936-1600-2000.jpg), recently seen as Crowley on _Supernatural_ for those who watch that show. He has the right arrogance and that twinkle he gets as Crowley could be contained.

Physically spot-on, although I don’t know if Sheppard has the range to hit that holier than thou tone that Stannis has. I’m a huge fan of Sheppard any time I see him, but he’s got a comfort zone that I haven’t seen him stretch beyond. For some reason, the image I had of Stannis was that of Charles Widmore in _LOST_, as played by [Alan Dale](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dale). But Dale is way too old to play Robert’s younger brother.

This might be a tricky role to cast - when he first appears, Stannis seems like a one-dimensional self-righteous prick. But as the series goes on, he develops in some very interesting directions that will be challenging to play to.

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> Davos Seaworth: [Russell Crowe](http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/00023636.jpg). I’m pretty sure he’d be unavailable pricewise, but then we’re not really submitting a list for consideration.

I’m thinking someone more along the lines of Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond from _LOST_, or maybe Adrien Brody for Davos. Russel Crowe is a bit too… the word stout comes to mind. I see Davos as a bit more wiry than Crowe could manage, even if he took off the pounds, since Davos was a smuggler before Stannis knighted him, and I don’t imagine him as the burly type that Crowe typically plays.

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> [Melisandre](http://onlyinhighheels.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sofia-milos.jpg): Sophia Milos. I’m not that familiar with her acting but it’s how I picture her.

Um. Wow. I didn’t exactly picture Melisandre as _completely smokin’ hot_, but Ms. Milos can have any role she wants.

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> Jacquen Hazar: [Ghassan Massoud](http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eSPgTb9Na8fh/610x.jpg), best known perhaps for Saladin in _Kingdom of Heaven_

Nailed it. His is exactly the face I had in mind when I read the book - and as an actor, Massoud is definitely capable of nailing this role.

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> Brienne of Tarth stumps me. Such a shame [Diane Delano](http://celebritysurgery.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Diane-Delano.jpg) is too old for the part; she’s a bit too attractive age but could be “uglied up”.

Yeah, this will be a tough one. Given Brienne’s stature and the dearth of actresses built like linebackers, I anticipate that HBO will cast some unknown, maybe a female athlete - but I really doubt they will be casting someone as homely as the book describes, even if they find a capable, fugly-enough actress.

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> Of course a quick google shows I’m far from the only person who pictured Patrick Stewart for Tywin Lannister.

Umm, Tywin’s already appeared in Season 1, played by [Charles Dance](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dance), even though I can’t recall him being in the first book. Although I’d pictured him as more of a Terence Stamp sort, I think Dance has made the role his own so far.

> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Craster - Ron Pearlman

I saw Craster as a lot smaller than Perlman - although Perlman definitely has the face, and the range to play him. The first actor that popped into my head to play him was [Andy Serkis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Serkis) but he’s going to be a bit busy with _The Hobbit_.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
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Now that Camelot has been cancelled, [Eva Green](http://thewondrous.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/eva-green.jpg)could make a great Mellisandre.

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> [Robert Carlyle](http://i.imgur.com/7wCg2.jpg) for Davos Seaworth

Perfect!

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> [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](#):
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> I saw Craster as a lot smaller than Perlman - although Perlman definitely has the face, and the range to play him. The first actor that popped into my head to play him was [Andy Serkis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Serkis) but he’s going to be a bit busy with _The Hobbit_.

Craster controls an isolated homestead, and terrorizes what seems like dozens of women and girls, all by himself in the wastes beyond the world. I never imagined him as anything other than a huge, hulking man.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/10 "2011-07-01T21:35:23Z")

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> [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](#):
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> Perfect!

Yeah, that is definitely exactly how i pictured Davos. Melisandre IS smoking hot i believe.

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Craster controls an isolated homestead, and terrorizes what seems like dozens of women and girls, all by himself in the wastes beyond the world. I never imagined him as anything other than a huge, hulking man.

To each his own, I guess - I envisioned him as more of a bully than anything else. Strong, sure, but not much more than average. He ruled his wives/daughters through threats and intimidation, but there was a reason that he sacrificed all his infant sons - he didn’t want the competition.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/12 "2011-07-01T21:43:43Z")

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Who I always pictured for Roose Bolton[…](http://i.imgur.com/BJQvT.png)

Now, he’s not available of course, but I would cast that type.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/13 "2011-07-01T21:51:22Z")

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> [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](#):
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> Physically spot-on, although I don’t know if Sheppard has the range to hit that holier than thou tone that Stannis has. I’m a huge fan of Sheppard any time I see him, but he’s got a comfort zone that I haven’t seen him stretch beyond.

True. He usually plays… well, Crowley: charming and amoral smartass.

[QUOTE=Crown Prince of Irony]  
For some reason, the image I had of Stannis was that of Charles Widmore in _LOST_, as played by [Alan Dale](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dale). But Dale is way too old to play Robert’s younger brother.  
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Actually I read somewhere- how’s that for a cite?- that he was considered for Tywin. I don’t know if he didn’t get it or wasn’t interested, but he’d have made a good one. He was great on _Ugly Betty_.

On Youtube there are several videos of people doing the Sylvio Forel lines from _Game of Thrones_. They date back to over a year ago and are pretty clearly from actors wanting to audition for the role.

[Dot Jones](http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000FA0ttkhQ8B8/s/700/7116-Dot-Marie-Jones-015.jpg) from GLEE would be perfect for Brienne except she’s about 10 years too old. I wonder if she has gym friends she could recommend. (You can’t tell in that picture but she’s all muscle; she was women’s world armwrestling champion several years running.)

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Actually I read somewhere- how’s that for a cite?- that he was considered for Tywin…

No cite needed - any casting director worth their salt would have had Alan Dale at the top of their list for Tywin.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> [Clea Duvall](http://i.imgur.com/ven54.jpg) for Brienne of Tarth

Clea is tiny. Well, by Brienne standards anyway. At 5’5" she just doesn’t have the height or build to pull it off.

I imagine it’s going to be the toughest role to cast by a wide margin.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/16 "2011-07-01T22:14:20Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Clea is tiny. Well, by Brienne standards anyway. At 5’5" she just doesn’t have the height or build to pull it off.
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> I imagine it’s going to be the toughest role to cast by a wide margin.

Yeah, but they’ll go for acting ability first. Armor and costume covers any lack of physique and they can cheat six inches of height pretty easily with cheap, old-school camera tricks – that is if they even care to. Her height isn’t that important, when they can just wag her strength and sword skills.

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Yeah, but they’ll go for acting ability first. Armor and costume covers any lack of physique and they can cheat six inches of height pretty easily with cheap, old-school camera tricks – that is if they even care to. Her height isn’t that important, when they can just wag her strength and sword skills.

I thought about this possibility too - but so much of Brienne’s personality is shaped by others’ reactions to her size and her overall appearance, I think they would either need to downplay that aspect of her in the TV show (and ruin a very interesting character) or use production cheats that might be obvious to the avid viewer.

Either way they go, I’ll put money on the likelihood that they will not cast a truly ugly person - in the books, Brienne isn’t just plain, she’s lantern-jawed, thick of neck, and small of chest. All qualities that will be pretty hard to find outside of female bodybuilding.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/18 "2011-07-01T22:42:51Z")

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Well this is what the casting call looked like:

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> BRIENNE TARTH] FEMALE. Age: 20s. A skilled warrior in service to Renly Baratheon. Larger and stronger than most men, we first meet Brienne when she wins a tournament, defeating the famed Loras Tyrell. Big-boned and plain faced, she has an awkward personality, but is also honest and loyal. She is derisively known as “Brienne the Beauty”… RECURRING. (Season Two: 6 episodes/Season Appearances: Multiple Season) Must be a MINIMUM of 5’10″. Do NOT submit actresses that look like models. We are looking for a big, WARRIOR-TYPE woman that’s more MANLY than womanly

I think they have the basics right.

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Well this is what the casting call looked like:
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> > [@](#):
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> > BRIENNE TARTH] FEMALE. Age: 20s. A skilled warrior in service to Renly Baratheon. Larger and stronger than most men, we first meet Brienne when she wins a tournament, defeating the famed Loras Tyrell. Big-boned and plain faced, she has an awkward personality, but is also honest and loyal. She is derisively known as “Brienne the Beauty”… RECURRING. (Season Two: 6 episodes/Season Appearances: Multiple Season) Must be a MINIMUM of 5’10″. Do NOT submit actresses that look like models. We are looking for a big, WARRIOR-TYPE woman that’s more MANLY than womanly
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> I think they have the basics right.

That is awesome. I am really looking forward to seeing who they find to play her.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-a-song-of-ice-fire-the-next-seasons-of-game-of-thrones/587524/20 "2011-07-05T15:20:00Z")

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Well, since it looks like Camelot is a goner i think [Eva Green](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1952366080/nm1200692) would make a perfect Melisandre. Girl is certainly not shy about showing the goods either, which is definitely a plus in this show.

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