# Casting bias against busty actresses?

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**Created:** [April 7, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253 "2010-04-07T07:18:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/101 "2010-12-14T17:47:55Z")

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I unparsed the link in post #98. **Therabel6** , please keep in mind that a lot of people read this board from work and could have a problem if they click a link with a photo that is overly racy. Now back to your discussion of whether or not Julia Louis-Dreyfus’ assets are real and/or spectacular.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/102 "2010-12-14T18:52:04Z")

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Most of the links posted by \*\*Therabel6 \*\*feature JLD in fairly constructive clothing wherein a relatively small bosom can be made to look much more substantial. In [this episode](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1211182/), JLD has a lengthy scene where she does housework in just a bra. I can’t find a video link, but JLD won’t be mistaken for Salma Hayek in this footage.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/103 "2010-12-14T19:41:08Z")

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> [@Therabel6](#):
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> “They may have made a gag out of her breasts, and played them up in the dialogue (and thus the entertainment news), but I don’t think they’re particularly large.”
> 
> You must not have seen them lately. Julia is a 34D, and there are many pics of her just bursting through her bra:  
> [http://img844.imageshack.us/i/picture8m.png/](http://img844.imageshack.us/i/picture8m.png/)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1662982981941&set=o.119809074717270](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1662982981941&set=o.119809074717270)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1662982981941&set=o.119809074717270#!/photo.php?fbid=1653380941896&set=o.119809074717270&pid=31638367&id=1458210028](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1662982981941&set=o.119809074717270#!/photo.php?fbid=1653380941896&set=o.119809074717270&pid=31638367&id=1458210028)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1633798252341&set=o.119809074717270](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1633798252341&set=o.119809074717270)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1634871959183&set=o.119809074717270](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1634871959183&set=o.119809074717270)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1634871959183&set=o.119809074717270#!/photo.php?fbid=1633701289917&set=o.119809074717270&pid=31600739&id=1458210028](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1634871959183&set=o.119809074717270#!/photo.php?fbid=1633701289917&set=o.119809074717270&pid=31600739&id=1458210028)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1634871959183&set=o.119809074717270#!/photo.php?fbid=1633702169939&set=o.119809074717270&pid=31600742&id=1458210028](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1634871959183&set=o.119809074717270#!/photo.php?fbid=1633702169939&set=o.119809074717270&pid=31600742&id=1458210028)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1633662368944&set=o.119809074717270](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1633662368944&set=o.119809074717270)  
> [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453896307255&set=o.119809074717270](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453896307255&set=o.119809074717270)  
> [http://image.skins.be/2684536/52463-jld02-122-366lo/](http://image.skins.be/2684536/52463-jld02-122-366lo/)  
> [http://img227.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=80608\_julialouisdreyfus-waitingroomflash\_004\_122\_533lo.jpg#](http://img227.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=80608_julialouisdreyfus-waitingroomflash_004_122_533lo.jpg#)  
> [http://www.imagebam.com/image/50943025457191](http://www.imagebam.com/image/50943025457191)
> 
> There are many more on [superiorpics.com](http://superiorpics.com) if you type in “Julia Louis-Dreyfus”

Any pictures avialable during Seinfeld era? I’m thinking that maybe they have experienced a recent “growth spurt.”

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/104 "2010-12-14T19:53:44Z")

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That would explain her recent urge to show them off. It’s a compulsion common to every women I’ve ever known who got an enhancement.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/105 "2010-12-14T19:55:04Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> Most of the links posted by \*\*Therabel6 \*\*feature JLD in fairly constructive clothing wherein a relatively small bosom can be made to look much more substantial.

Agreed - that is what I have been saying. They are emphasizing the breasts via low cut, boosting, shaping, perhaps even padded bras. But they aren’t that large.

> [@Therabel6](#):
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> A lot of people think she got implants. Here’s a link to a story with a discussion board on the bottom of the page.  
> [snip]  
> I think they are real, she just kept them covered in the past. Julia flaunts them on Old Christine all the time now.

I agree with you, they are real, and that she’s kept them covered before, but is pretending they’re bigger than they are for her show. The show makes a premise out of her flaunting them, just like _House_ makes a big deal out of Cuddy’s adequate boobage. (They’re nice, but _House_ also oversells their size. The same way he tells her she has a huge ass, just to run her down/compliment her.)

As for that link, I take it as worthless. They link to an article claiming Kate Hudson had implants based purely on 1 photo comparison. The old photo has her in a bikini top - a thin, unsupported bikini top. The new picture has her in a bra, an actual undergarment designed to support and shape her boobs. It is very likely the bra is a “Wonderbra” or the like, i.e. designed to make small ones look bigger, enhance what is there.

Similarly, the comments on that article are from the biggest bunch of blind, naive, uninformed idiots this side of youtube. Someone on there adamant “they can’t be real, they are too big”. I can find pictures online (though definitely not passing the Safe For Work filters) of plenty of real boobs bigger than those. I’m sure you can, too.

I just don’t think her boobs are that large, but I’m willing to reassess if I can do so in person.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/106 "2010-12-14T20:44:44Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> …I agree with you, they are real…

Must… not make… obvious… _Seinfeld_… joke…

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/107 "2010-12-14T20:50:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Must… not make… obvious… _Seinfeld_… joke…

\*\*  
Marley23\*\* beat you to it.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/108 "2010-12-14T22:17:21Z")

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> [@Zjestika](#):
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> Doesn’t Criminal Minds have Garcia, the chick with the mindblowing GUI, aka [Kirsten Vangsness](http://www.subs.gr/portal/images/criminal_minds__007.jpg)? She’s not waif thin, more average to fat and totally TV fat. But is she busty?

Oh, yes! Yes, she is! The OP is using _Criminal Minds_ as an example of flat-chested FBI agents when they have the delicious Kirsten Vangsness who is my favorite on the show.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/109 "2010-12-15T05:57:05Z")

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Pish-tosh on these little skinny girls. Google Laura San Giacomo.

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**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/110 "2010-12-15T10:39:31Z")

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Hi all - I’m the OP. In post 25 I said I had no knowledge of Christina Hendricks but that she appeared busty in the pics. Having now seen Mad Men - I am happy to concur with those who cited her in previous posts. Very happy.  
But though I may be slated for saying so I don’t think Kirsten Vangsness is busty - I’d say her boobs were commensurate with the rest of her body.

As for JL-D - no chance, no way. As I said at the start maybe Mrs Macau has skewed my view, but to ressurect this thread in order to give _her_ chest as an example of a busty actress??  
As has been said above cup size is dependent on a number of things but put those pics into perspective. What is she 5’2"?  
I haven’t seen the programme - is it possible the writers were somehow being ironic in an emporer’s new clothes kind of way by repeatedly stating that a quite obviously normal sized chest was busty in order to make a point about men’s vacuous attitudes to women? Is that too much too ask?

Therabel6/J L-D - I think you’re funny and you’re successful and you’ve got a body of work and maybe even a body that’s had work done, - but not busty. As I and others have said here - having breasts does not equal being busty.

Here’s hoping all dopers enjoy the holidays in the bosom of their families.

MiM

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/111 "2010-12-15T14:44:09Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> Pish-tosh on these little skinny girls. Google Laura San Giacomo.

This is by far the best advice I have gotten today.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/112 "2010-12-15T23:25:39Z")

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Actually, I just enjoy thinking of all those oppressed busty actresses … mmmm … and Laura San Giacomo is about the bustiest of them … and the one who has done the least with them, that has them, if you know what I mean. Sort of the opposite of Julia Dreyfuss.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/113 "2010-12-15T23:38:39Z")

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Do not Google “Laura San Gicacomo” and “breasts” cause there aren’t gonna be that many picks of Laura. I feel like I deserve hazardous duty pay for that one … but here’s a link to a pic that explains what “large breasted” is all about … not nude, but Laura’s got so much cleavage she’s not safe for work in just a bra, so:

[Photo in the lower right hand corner!](http://www.nitrovideo.com/moviedb/stand__the/Laura_San_Giacomo.html)

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/114 "2010-12-16T00:28:30Z")

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Did anyone mention [Caroline Munro](http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Caroline_Munro)?

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/115 "2010-12-16T12:13:14Z")

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Patty Heaton has some big juggs too:  
[http://www.imagebam.com/image/cff6b755743729](http://www.imagebam.com/image/cff6b755743729)  
[http://img175.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=82812\_PDVD\_014\_122\_549lo.jpg](http://img175.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=82812_PDVD_014_122_549lo.jpg)  
[http://img194.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=72370\_2009\_CMA\_Awards\_ccce\_122\_88lo.JPG#](http://img194.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=72370_2009_CMA_Awards_ccce_122_88lo.JPG#)  
[http://www.imagebam.com/image/8a989154419154](http://www.imagebam.com/image/8a989154419154)

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/116 "2010-12-16T14:13:45Z")

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Patricia Heaton does indeed have a very flattering figure.

Years ago I was being surveyed by a market research company. They showed several TV clips and asked me what ages they would be appropriate for. One of the clips was from _Everybody Loves Raymond_, which I’d never watched.  
I wasn’t dating anyone at the time, so I was probably a little…anxious…and I could not take my eyes off of Heaton. Then they showed the commercial, a spot for a popular toothpaste. The clinical data in the ad actually converted me right there, but I pointed out that the beginning of the piece was so boring and generic that I never would have watched it to get the data that converted me. My suggestion was that a figure like Heaton’s would have hooked viewers in long enough to get to the pertinent information, and I stand by that. As a TV looker, Patricia Heaton is very underrated.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/117 "2010-12-16T17:03:09Z")

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Well, she should look good, she’s had work done.

[http://www.celebcosmeticsurgery.com/2006/02/patricia-heaton/](http://www.celebcosmeticsurgery.com/2006/02/patricia-heaton/)  
[http://www.superiorpics.com/patricia\_heaton/](http://www.superiorpics.com/patricia_heaton/)

Though I’m a bit confused, the articles aren’t consistent on what they describe. Sure, everybody says she has had a tummy tuck (and lost her belly button in the process), but with regards to the breasts, one says “breast lift” and others say “breast reduction”.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/118 "2010-12-16T21:33:37Z")

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Laura Prepon

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/119 "2010-12-17T02:09:54Z")

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> [@palindromemordnilap](#):
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> I’ve just looked at two lists of celebrity breast sizes and I don’t see any obvious bias one way or the other. More women, and more actresses have B size breasts than any other, followed by C. Not as many women have A or D breasts, and the same goes for actresses.
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> It is true that more actresses from the 50s and 60s had larger breasts, and singers seem to do better if they can hit a C or D note. But the notion that Jolie, Winslet and Johannson are locked out of serious roles is just silly.

Are you trying to imply that Winslet has big breasts???

Best wishes,  
hh

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-bias-against-busty-actresses/535253/120 "2010-12-22T01:59:21Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Are you trying to imply that Winslet has big breasts???
> 
> Best wishes,  
> hh

Hang on..I may be confusing her with Kate Blanchett…  
hh

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