# Casting for The Fantastic Four has been announced

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies, comic-books-manga, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [February 14, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559 "2024-02-14T17:50:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/21 "2024-02-16T10:09:03Z")

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Yeah, I was thinking about that. Absolutely no disrespect to Mr. Pascal, but Reed Richards is meant to be insanely smart. I’ve always seen Pedro in more action-y roles. Happy to be proven wrong, and the right script and such can help. It is acting, after all.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/22 "2024-02-16T15:28:52Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Reed Richards is meant to be insanely smart

True, Reed’s primary superpower is not the acquired one of stretchiness, it’s the one he already had: he’s a (yet another) scientific supergenius. However, considering that under the original canon he has to be charismatic enough to convince four other close friends to hop on an untested boondoggle of a spaceship, and succesfully start a superhero team _without_ “secret” identities, I could see Pascal portraying _that_ aspect.

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(and if the FF are going to fully integrate into the MCU, now I wonder if/when the “Namor tries to steal Reed’s lady” subplot will show up…)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/23 "2024-02-16T15:35:06Z")

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And they actually have a Jewish actor playing The Thing this time.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/24 "2024-02-16T15:46:13Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> (and if the FF are going to fully integrate into the MCU, now I wonder if/when the “Namor tries to steal Reed’s lady” subplot will show up…)

I almost hope the FF is transplanted from another universe resembling the one depicted in 1960s Marvel comics. If they are born out of the modern MCU, they will be almost unrecognizable to comic book readers.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/25 "2024-02-16T15:55:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Please get the origin right.

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Doom is just the anti-Reed and sucks all the air out of the other character’s stories.

When one of these Marvel or DC properties tries to throw in everything and the kitchen sink including EVERYONE’s “origin story” at the same time every time, it risks at the least annoyance about having to go over it all again, and at worst ending up with a rushed origin story + a rushed first story.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/26 "2024-02-16T15:59:26Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> And they actually have a Jewish actor playing The Thing this time.

Why does that matter?

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/27 "2024-02-16T16:00:57Z")

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That’s a good argument for introducing the FF fully formed with just a couple lines of expository dialog about how one of Reed’s wacky experiments turned them all into superheroes/freaks.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/28 "2024-02-16T16:20:31Z")

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“As you know….”

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Why does that matter?

🤷‍♂️ I just appreciate it, as a comic nerd.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/29 "2024-02-16T16:27:01Z")

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So the original comic book character was Jewish? I didn’t know that.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/30 "2024-02-16T16:50:21Z")

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Yeah, they revealed it in 2002.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/31 "2024-02-16T17:20:19Z")

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Ben Grimm was always generally acknowledged to be (the Jewish) Jack Kirby’s comic book personification.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/32 "2024-02-16T17:58:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Please get the origin right.

Somewhere I read speculation that since they’ve casted an older Mr. Fantastic in Pedro Pascal, and they’ve already done the origin story to death with previous reboots, they may just skip the origin story altogether and go directly into whatever main conflict there will be. Again though, just some second-hand speculation.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/33 "2024-02-16T18:14:20Z")

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I wouldn’t mind that. It would be fun if their opponent was The Impossible Man.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/34 "2024-02-16T18:21:29Z")

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After showing us Spider-man and Batman’s origins over and over, skipping it for the FF would be great.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/35 "2024-02-16T19:20:40Z")

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I would absolutely see this movie if they included a scene based on Norm Macdonald’s hilarious bit about Reed Richards choosing their names.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kDzBVvhbtIw/hqdefault.jpg "Norm Macdonald - Mr Fantastic") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDzBVvhbtIw)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/36 "2024-02-16T19:48:43Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Wikipedia says Ebon Moss-Bachrach is from Massachusetts. Can he do a Hell’s Kitchen accent?

Yuppie? Hipster? Hell’s Kitchen ain’t what it used to be. I think it was Nick Fury who said, “If you can’t stand the heat there’s a nice little place around the corner in Hell’s Kitchen where you can get a cappuccino.”

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/37 "2024-02-16T19:53:43Z")

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Sorry. Never been to NY. Stan Lee has said that, when writing dialog, he imagined Ben Grimm with Jimmy Durante’s voice.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/38 "2024-02-16T19:55:47Z")

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I am really hoping they tread on new ground. Maybe introduce Doom but not make him the main baddie. Don’t waste half a movie on an origin story again. Tie them into the MCU during the movie not in the credits. Things like that.

They can’t do Galactus without doing the Silver Surfer again. Personally I think the previous movie did a good job on the Surfer while dropping the ball on Galactus.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/39 "2024-02-16T20:01:40Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Tie them into the MCU during the movie not in the credits.

Might be difficult if rumors are true about the movie taking place in the early 60’s.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/casting-for-the-fantastic-four-has-been-announced/997559/40 "2024-02-16T20:02:16Z")

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I’ve heard Javier Bardem is being looked at to play Galactus.

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