# Castle Wolfstein **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 11, 2000, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988 "2000-12-11T08:15:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snetho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Snetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snetho)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/1 "2000-12-11T08:15:15Z")
Does anybody remember this game before ID released the 3D version? It was a little stick figure that ran around and had a gun. Some of the doors were electric and some had to be shot open. In some of the treasure chests there were bratwurst and sauerkraut…I had this game for my Apple IIc…anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/2 "2000-12-11T08:48:07Z")
I remember it but I never played it. ---
**Author:** ![DRY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DRY](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DRY)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/3 "2000-12-11T09:21:43Z")
I remember it, played it, liked it. I remember dying by firing a gun at a chest full of explosives. I remember the chest with schnapps (?) that would make you hiccup. ---
**Author:** ![RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5daacb/32.png) [@RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RocknRoll_Killing_Machine)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/4 "2000-12-11T10:06:58Z")
I played that game. I remember getting a guard uniform and shooting all the guards in the back, but they got replaced with the SS which killed me. ---
**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/5 "2000-12-11T11:16:36Z")
Ach Lieben! I see this thread in MPSIMS soon. Voof! Voof! –Tim ---
**Author:** ![Snetho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Snetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snetho)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/6 "2000-12-11T13:06:51Z")
Ok, let me qualify this…does anyone know who originally developed the game? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/7 "2000-12-11T13:10:46Z")
[ActiVisions Wolfenstein 3D](http://www.activision.com/games/wolf3D/) You’re welcome. Google is such a revolutionary search engine. ---
**Author:** ![Nurlman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Nurlman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nurlman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/8 "2000-12-11T13:49:57Z")
The OP wanted to know about the **original** Castle Wolfenstein, not those lame 3D descendants. The [original CW](http://jollyrogers.com/cwhome.html) was written by MUSE Software in 1983 for the Apple II. Grab yourself an Apple II emulator and you can download the original at [classicgaming.com](http://www.classicgaming.com/vault/roms/appleiiroms.CastleWolfenstein33339.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/9 "2000-12-11T13:56:31Z")
Ah, right. I humbly apologise for coming across a bit snotty, then. I’m a nice guy, really, once you get to know me 😃 [sub]Grumble, grumble… who gives a hoot about Apples, anyway…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Tomcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Tomcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tomcat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/10 "2000-12-11T14:04:18Z")
I remember getting a hacked version of this for my Apple IIc. Great game! One level of graphics higher than an old Atari system. Played it all the time until Lode Runner came out… It was also the first time that I had ever heard something recorded onto a computer disk- somehow, someone managed to get the first few seconds of the Smurfs tune (La la, la la la laaaa) to play when you started the game up. And I don’t mean computer created, I mean somehow someone hooked up a microphone to a computer and recorded it from the TV onto the floppy. Now, with today’s mp3’s that ain’t no biggie, but back in the early 80’s? I never heard another clip on disk until 10 years later. Take care- -Tcat ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/11 "2000-12-11T14:24:30Z")
Oh, we had that for the ol’ AppleIIplus, but there was a flaw in the disk and the program kept crashing. I, too moved on to the wonderful world of Lode Runner. What’s an AppleII emulator and where can you get one? Can you run it on a PC? ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/12 "2000-12-11T15:05:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Snetho \* > \*\*Ok, let me qualify this…does anyone know who originally developed the game? \*\* **manhattan** passes to **Chronos**. **Chronos** back to **manhattan**. **manhattan** shoots for MPSIMS! Oh! What a save by **Snetho**! ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/13 "2000-12-11T15:42:29Z")
You have found Hitler’s post on the SDMB. Too bad you can’t read German… ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/14 "2000-12-11T17:46:24Z")
I’ve still got this game on 5.25" in PC format. I never got Beyond Castle Wolfenstein – did it ever exist? (Yes, I know I could just hit our favorite local search engine, but I’m lazy). It had things that FPS these days really should use. I mean, running up to a guard with an empty gun, shoving it into his chest, searching him as he’s surrendered, taking his bulletproof vest, taking his uniform, taking his bullets … and then shooting him. All the games these days are just shoot, shoot, shoot. (And yes, I know that this is a gross generalization- but hey, I play them regularly, I should be able to gripe.) Escaping with or without the plans … Shooting locks because they were taking too long to open … Throwing grenades at guards with the neon-green bulletproof vests … Actually, **Nurlman** , the game was written by MUSE in 1981, not 1983 – see this [screenshot](http://www.ufpel.tche.br/~snoopy/jogos/wolfen_e.htm). ---
**Author:** ![zyzzyva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@zyzzyva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zyzzyva)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castle-wolfstein/44988/15 "2000-12-11T18:10:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LNO \* > **I’ve still got this game on 5.25" in PC format. I never got Beyond Castle Wolfenstein – did it ever exist? (Yes, I know I could just hit our favorite local search engine, but I’m lazy).** Indeed it did. IMHO, it was a significant improvement over the original. The gameplay was the same, but you started off with a uniform. You also had passes that you had to show a guard upon entering each room. If you didn’t show the right pass, he’d pull his gun and ask again. They could be bribed, though. You could also get a knife, good because it was silent and didn’t use up bullets. The two other differences that i remember were that, instead of having bullet proof vests, you could be wounded and you’d move slower (you could get first aid kits to get better, just like in the ID version) and that the locked closets were picked “manually” (instead of just counting down until it opened, you had to press numbers and listen to clicks until you found the combination). Not bad for something i haven’t played in about 15 years. 😉