# Castrating Bitches Are NOT A Good Selling Point!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 26, 2001, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154 "2001-06-26T01:38:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2001, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/21 "2001-06-26T20:18:27Z")

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My wife?

No she doesn’t like to hurt people. So she doesn’t fit Fenris’ description.

I only think she’s a castrating bitch when she whips my ass on the tennis court.

She has a cutting wit, and a ruthless way of dealing with stupid fools (don’t know why she puts up with me,) which I find admirable.

Seriously though, it seems to me that the “castrating bitch” archetype is often a defense mechanism adopted by women.

A good looking woman can get subject to an awful lot of harassing behavior, and has to figure out how to deal with it.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2001, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/22 "2001-06-26T20:41:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> \*\*My wife?
> 
> No she doesn’t like to hurt people. So she doesn’t fit Fenris’ description.
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> I only think she’s a castrating bitch when she whips my ass on the tennis court.
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> She has a cutting wit, and a ruthless way of dealing with stupid fools (don’t know why she puts up with me,) which I find admirable.
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> Seriously though, it seems to me that the “castrating bitch” archetype is often a defense mechanism adopted by women.
> 
> A good looking woman can get subject to an awful lot of harassing behavior, and has to figure out how to deal with it. \*\*

But there’s a difference between harassing behavior and the behavior exhibited by the poor shlubs in these commercials. If they were being dickheads to the CB, they would **deserve** the treatment. They’re not. The CBs simply decide to be mean.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2001, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/23 "2001-06-26T21:13:52Z")

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I think that the target audience of the “castrating bitches” ads would be… castrating bitches. I can’t imagine that men that self identify as “dweebs” would watch one of those ads and say “Humm, that dweeb was just humiliated by a castrating bitch because of product X. I must go get some product X right now, so I too can be humiliated.”

However, I can see how some women, who are perhaps sick of lame come-ons, might find the ads apealing.

I have certainly cracked a grin at one or two of them, and I’m not even a castrating bitch.

Al.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2001, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/24 "2001-06-26T21:14:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> \*\*Fenris:
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> > [@](#):
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> > At least, the vast majority of turn-downs I’ve had have at least been civil.
> 
> You probably seem like you’re somebody of consequence who looks like they’re worthy of consideration, or at least politeness.
> 
> On the other hand I look like an evil henchmen, kind of a cross between a Neanderthal Man and a total creep. If I knocked on your door, you wouldn’t open it as you’d assume I was sent to either kidnap you or sell you a vaccum cleaner.\*\*

Not me, I’m short, hairy, and somewhat overweight. Imagine a 1890’s mad-bomber sterotype (the round kind, not the tall, skinny kind.)

\*\*

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> Because of my disreputable looks and bad taste in all things, no matter how nice and sincere I was, it always seemed like a fake act to the objects of my affection.
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> Putting me down was a high art. Even I came to admire the cutting and ingenius fashions in which I was rejected. And put me down, they did! Like an old dog with one leg and a bad bladder!\*\*

This happened a lot to me in high school, but since then, I’ve gotten curt “No, thanks”, and the occasional cold shoulder where someone’s just turned away, but the sort of deliberate meanness that the characters in these commercials show is a whole 'nother level.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![tevya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tevya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tevya)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/25 "2001-06-26T23:31:18Z")

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[hijack]  
Dibs on the sig! [/hijack]

(See below.)

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/26 "2001-06-27T01:23:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \*  
> \*\*I think that the target audience of the “castrating bitches” ads would be… castrating bitches. I can’t imagine that men that self identify as “dweebs” would watch one of those ads and say “Humm, that dweeb was just humiliated by a castrating bitch because of product X. I must go get some product X right now, so I too can be humiliated.”
> 
> However, I can see how some women, who are perhaps sick of lame come-ons, might find the ads apealing.
> 
> I have certainly cracked a grin at one or two of them, and I’m not even a castrating bitch.
> 
> Al. \*\*

The motor oil one’s not aimed at women, though. It’s aimed at guys. Not to imply that only males change their oil or that they alone are responsible for such a task. The CB clearly addresses a male.

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**Author:** ![Tornado\_Siren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Tornado\_Siren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tornado_Siren)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2001, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/27 "2001-06-27T01:35:54Z")

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Fenris, I thought I was the only one who was really bothered by the clear braces commercial. The first time I saw it, all I could think was “what a bitch!!”.

I even went as far as to have my daughter watch it as a “how not to” lesson for her. I don’t care if you are the most beautiful person that has ever walked the face of the earth, or the butt ugliest neanderthal to ever walk out of a cave, if you treat people with respect, you deserve the same respect back. Even the worst pick-up line, if delivered with at least a bit of friendliness, deserves, at the very least, a polite rebuttal. I always found that saying, “that was was the worst pickup line I have ever heard”, in a half joking/half serious manner was a wonderful ice breaker, and usually ended the attempt in a friendly way. And if it didn’t end it, it was often the start of a REAL conversation.

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2001, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/28 "2001-06-27T12:26:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*First example: Some commercial (I don’t remember the product) has a guy in front of a tv getting magic wishes. His last wish is for a date with some woman with the unlikely name “Carmen Electra”. She appears on his TV and when he asks her for a date, she says words to the effect of “Me? Go out with you?” in a “it is to laugh” tone of voice. \*\*

The funniest part of this commercial is the implication that Carmen Electra, who married **Dennis Friggin’ Rodman** , has some kind of standards concerning who she will and won’t go out with.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2001, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/29 "2001-06-27T12:56:54Z")

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Of course Carmen ELectra has standards; they just are based on the bank account, and not the individual.

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**Author:** ![Kopi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d2c977/32.png) [@Kopi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kopi)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2001, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/30 "2001-06-27T13:08:27Z")

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I blame the entire movement on Angie Dickenson (with a dash of Tori Amos of course).  
As I see it, the role of the castrating bitch is no different than the empty headed, beer-swilling, womanizing male often seen portrayed in many a commercial. I don’t necessarily watch Miller Lite ads thinking, ‘goddamnit, that schmuck has no regard for women’ (or good beer for that matter).  
Viewer discretion is advised.

P.S. My issue with the clear braces commercial is the fact that their teeth are all perfectly straight and phenomenally white. Show me those bad boys on Jethro the snaggletooth damnit!

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2001, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/31 "2001-06-27T14:05:56Z")

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Fenris:

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> Not me, I’m short, hairy, and somewhat overweight. Imagine a 1890’s mad-bomber sterotype

That explains it. That look is **so** in right now. Witness George Costanza and that guy Sippowicz from NYPD Blue. With any luck you’re balding. Probably have to beat them off with a stick because they think your witty, cuddly, and smart.

Lucky dog.

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**Author:** ![Akatsukami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@Akatsukami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akatsukami)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2001, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/32 "2001-06-28T01:55:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Manda JO \*  
> \*\*There is also that oil changing one. The one where the castrating bitch talks all about how she’ll be sure to castrate you if you don’t change the oil every 3K miles, that that castrating bitches “know when you lie”. \*\*

Well, then she would certainly detect the truthfulness and sincerity in my voice when I told her, “See ya 'round, babe…but not in _this_ lifetime”.

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**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2001, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/castrating-bitches-are-not-a-good-selling-point/70154/33 "2001-06-28T05:47:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> \*\*  
> Let’s face it, if Elmer Snerd walks up to Debbie Hotbitch on a cruise and gives her a refreshingly different drink, he is still not going to get laid. What kind of woman would screw a guy because her gave her a fruit drink, anyway? \*\*

Logic applied to advertising? Will Capitalism survive this?

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