Cataract Surgery

All great news folks. I had my left eye done last summer and all is terrific.

For those that still need correction in one eye, let me tell you what was recommended to me.

My right eye did not need cataract surgery, and was pretty good for distance. Still not good for reading, close in work. My optometrist recommended a contact lens. These new contacts not only sharpened my distance vision, it fixed my up close reading vision as well. Multi-focal. And they are daily wear. I don’t sleep in them, I just put a new one in every day. The cost is about a dollar a day.

I gave all the spare reading glasses I had laying around to the local library. Don’t need em any more.

Oh, since I take my contact out before going to bed, I have a pair of readers that I use to, well read. I just knocked one lens out since the eye that had the cataract surgery doesn’t need any correction at all for reading or distance.

Amazing stuff.

Great to hear, enipla, but what dopers really want to know is…

… are your readers on a cord hanging around your neck, or not? :slight_smile:

I plan to talk to the doc and ask them to use something else. Or nothing, if that’s possible.

I finally started feeling somewhat okay Friday evening (yesterday) and the surgery was Wednesday morning. That’s THREE days. I’m back to being a little foggy this morning. :frowning:

Three days is waaay too long. I’ll ask my doc what they used for me.

I would really appreciate knowing that. Thanks.

Some people get cataracts removed with no sedation, just a numbing local. Does anyone know anything about that?

Will do. I’ve already sent the email.

But I remember that this happened —

So maybe I did get Versed? I’ll report back when the doc replies.

ThelmaLou’s question still stands:

A couple of articles re sedation-free cataract surgery:

Though I roll my head at this: “patients can walk into the operating room”… I walked into the OR, from one table to another, and back out of the OR, and I had sedation.

The article doesn’t say what, if anything, is done differently procedurally.

Discusses no-anesthesia surgery (not even topical), which I think is insane. Though it does mention “corneal sensitivity is reduced as a person ages. The decline is significant beyond 65 years of age.”

https://www.ophthalmologytimes.com/modern-medicine-feature-articles/iv-free-sedation-may-help-anxious-cataract-patients

Mentions some alternatives to the cocktail including a combo of ketamine and midazolam (Fentanyl, I think).

"Buccal, or sublingual administration, allows us to start the drugs earlier and allow the slow onset to prevent the initial anxiety build up. "

"Working with Imprimis Pharmaceuticals, John Berdahl, MD, and others, we were able to develop the conscious-sedation troche (MKO Melt) that is composed of 3 mg midazolam, 25 mg ketamine, and 2 mg ondansetron. Ondansetron is used to treat postoperative nausea and vomiting and takes much longer to reach maximum plasma concentration, as well as longer to reach elimination half life than midazolam and ketamamine.4 " (my note: ondansetron is generic Zofran).

"Overly anxious patients may be more difficult than the obvious complex cataract cases, said James P. Gills, M.D., Tarpon Springs, Fla. “The concern with these patients is how they may react during the case, which could lead to complications,” he said, citing potential vitreous loss, increased risk of cystoid macular edema, or even lens malpositioning, resulting from a patient who cannot lie still on the table. “Using topical anesthesia for cataract surgery is much simpler for the patient, but what should be a straightforward case could become complicated if the patient becomes extremely anxious,” he said.

Source: https://www.eyeworld.org/"

One thing that freaks me out is the concept of an injection (to numb and help immobilize the eye). Oh hells no. This was not done for me and I don’t think it’s terribly common for plain cataract surgery.

I’d suggest you discuss the whole situation with your eye doctor. He (she?) may or may not feel comfortable doing it without anesthesia; I suspect sedation is easier for the doctor, to be honest, as he doesn’t have to worry as much about panicky patients - though he certainly should be quite capable of doing it, especially if you and he both feel that anxiety / jumpiness won’t be a big issue.

And also discuss alternative sedation protocols, well in advance. File a complaint about the anesthesiologist disregarding your requests (nausea meds, if I remember correctly).

Thanks for that info and thanks for following up.

I asked my opth if he ever did cataract removal with only local, no sedation, and he said “once.” He’s my age and he’s done thousands of cataract surgeries, but I don’t especially want to be the second person he does it on with only a local. He said I definitely need a smaller dose of anesthesia AND the anti-nausea patch. I got an email survey last week re the anesthesiologist. (Nowadays, I get a survey–either email or phone call after every doctor visit of any kind.) I filled it out and I was brutally frank about his dismissal of my nausea concerns. I’m going back to schedule the other eye in a couple of weeks. I definitely want to talk to the anesthesiologist ahead of time and not when I’m already lying down ready to go under the knife.

I was looking over the post-cataract paperwork they sent me home with and under the guidelines there was the statement, “Try not to sneeze or vomit immediately after surgery.” Right.

Hah. No. Gave a few pairs to a cousin, and the rest to the library.

I keep a pair by my bed with one lens knocked out so I can take my contact out and read/fall asleep in bed with out a concern about sleeping with the contact in.

Had my final follow-up today and got a clean bill. My eye is almost 20/15! Good-to-go.

So I’ll get a new eyeglass rx and should be able to get 20/20 overall with both eyes open.

Happy!

I’ve survived a full year without the surgery. I head to the eye doc next week. My contract job ends in 6 weeks so I need to know now as paying for it is going to be tough. One eye qualifies as medically necessary, but the other, despite a cataract, does not yet make the cut. I’d rather do them both close together for the sake of prescription glasses needs and to negate potential further expense there.

Carnut, what was the outcome of your doctor visit?

Popped in to give a bit of an update. I saw my eye doc last week, and when they did the initial refraction, my vision wasn’t quite as good as immediately post-surgery. So yeah, I’m developing PCO (Posterior Capsule Opacification). Mildly annoying, but I stood a pretty good chance of developing it, so no surprise. As it’s not bothering me, doc says I can get the lasering done any time; I’m booked in 6 months for a recheck, but if I want the laser done sooner, I can just call and schedule it (no need for another office visit first). I’m going to be driving long distance in June, so I might want to get it done before then to improve nighttime driving.

With the multifocal lens, they have to zap a slightly bigger hole; that’s the only difference there. Supposedly it won’t hurt at all, as the part that gets lasered has no pain receptors. I’ll be numbed / dilated, and there will be something on the eyeball to keep it from moving - no worse than the laser part of the actual surgery.

I got to see other hospitals’ protocol semi-firsthand this week and last: a close friend was having her eyes done, one week apart, and I was her escort both times. She has severe myopia (pre-cataract, -15 in both eyes which is Coke-bottle territory), had been on eye drops for a year or so to lower pressure: though hers was always well in safe territory, they say they can’t get a good pressure measurement with such severe myopia - and she also has other things going on with her eyes so they want to reduce all other risks as much as possible.

So she had one done at a hospital very near her house (happened to be where the surgeon worked that day), where the procedures were much like mine, including the ton of eye drops administered there (though she did not have to self-dilate like I did) and marking the eyeball with a pen (to help align the toric, I think). They used the LensAR laser there - the doc said it was faster than the Catalys (which I had) and less of a pretty light show.

For her second one, she was at a different facility, nearer the doctor’s office. She didn’t even have to take off her shirt for that one. They did the dilation by placing a pledget (little sponge soaked in medication) in her eye, under the lower eyelid; she said that was mildly annoying. She had the Catalys laser there; she agreed the light show was better. More post-op pain then (she had a goniotomy with both eyes, to ensure better eye drainage in the future, but for some reason this one was more painful).

Her pre-op regimen was different from mine. I had to use the steroid / NSAID / antibiotic drops for the week before; she had a regimen of warm compresses and an eyelid cleaner that included very diluted bleach. Which to me actually makes more sense; i’ve read that pre-op antibiotics have a risk of encouraging resistant bacteria to grow.

She’s finding the reading part annoying; she was not a candidate for multifocals (due to the other eye issues), so now she can’t even read her watch without readers. But she’s enjoying driving without glasses.

Scarily, she texted me this morning: she woke up with blurry vision in last week’s eye. She went to the doctor, and they measure her eye pressure at something astronomical. They administered something to lower the pressure, and she was waiting for it to take effect and redo the measurement. Evidently she had a bit of a rebleed into the eye and the blood cells are blocking the drainage; it was also probably affected by the high dose of drops going into the other eye. So she’s now on a different regimen of drops.

Mamma Zappa, the news is “keep waiting”.

Apparently, the eye with the double cataract is officially worse, but not quite bad enough to be deemed medically necessary. I expected this news, but was kinda hoping we’d be able to take care of it. The other eye isn’t much worse, cataract-wise, but that one has concerns regarding a retinal tear. The good news is that my prescription hasn’t changed so I don’t need to sink money into glasses I won’t get a lot of wear from (I have 3 pair of prescription glasses). On top of this, I suffer from fairly severe dry-eye and the prescription drops that work best for me are well out of my price range (Xiidra) so she gave me a prescription for generic Restaysis. Turns out I can’t use that so I am surviving on allergy drops and a lot of Systane. Winter is finally over and that helps my situation a lot.

The doc scheduled a call with me to check whether or not I am having problems in 6 months, because the rate at which the double cataract is progressing. It does affect my night vision. She also mentioned that I might be interested in the multifocal lenses as I still have several years to go sitting in front of a computer in the working world.

What criteria are they using to decide “medically necessary”?

When I was initially diagnosed, the doc said “unable to get you to 20-20 with glasses OR eyes more than 2 diopters apart”. Well, she got me to 20-20 then, but even before the cataract my eyes were 2 apart; with the cataract it was more like 4 or 5. It did the glasses harder to tolerate. She tried saying “you don’t meet the criteria” the next time I saw her, and I had to remind her that yes I did based on the 2+ rule.

In any case, you might have grounds for arguing that it IS necessary, based on that or the fact that it’s impeding your ability to drive. That last was a real problem for me: in November I had to drive 500 miles, which is a doable one-day trip but I had to break it into two as I couldn’t drive past sundown.

Maybe time to get a second opinion on the necessity? I honestly don’t think my right eye would have qualified on its own, but I suspect insurers (and certainly doctors) are quite willing to allow one right after the other. One aspect is that especially with multifocals, it’s easier for the brain to learn to process the new information if you do them close together.

Look into prescription assistance programs for the Xiidra (https://www.xiidra.com/savings). A lot of the new and insanely expensive medications have such programs. You definitely need to get the dry-eye under control beforehand as it can increase the risk of complcations.

I don’t know what a “double cataract” is. Retinal tear though: you might want to consult with someone who does higher-risk surgery. My friend sees a retinal specialist every 6 months (early-stage macular generation, seems to be held at bay with vitamins) and went to see someone he recommended (who also happens to be the same doc who works with her regular ophthalmologist, and who has treated that ophthalmologist’s family). I know she was considered higher-risk for retinal detachment due to her severe myopia (and she’d had a posterior vitreous detachment at one point), so she definitely needed to see someone with a lot of experience.

Sounds like me! One of my freshman English classes was held in one of those giant chemistry lecture halls, because the class size was so big. Everybody around me was scribbling down what the TA was writing on the board, and I couldn’t see a thing. I still remember after I got glasses I left the library around 10 pm to walk to the bus stop. Wow! The moon! The leaves on the trees! They’re not just like Impressionist paintings after all. :slight_smile:

I had my first cataract surgery about five years ago. My older sister kept complaining about floaters, and I thought the issues I was having with my left eye were just floaters. I thought the peephole in our front door was getting scratched because I could barely see through it. Finally, I put a hand over my right eye and realized I almost couldn’t see at all. When I went to the doctor, I couldn’t even see the big E at the top of the chart. Ha! I knew what was happening with my right eye started to go bad and just had it done last month. It wasn’t automatic to have your vision improved when I had my left eye done, but I’m now 20-20 in my right. I could probably drive without glasses, but I can’t read some street signs, so I’ll probably get some glasses.
It’s great!

A double cataract is when your lens has a cataract on each side of the lens. The result can be lots of light refraction as the light enters the lens from the side (e.g. oncoming car headlights as you pass). The retinal tear aspect will have me working with a high-risk specialist. Right now though, I’m in between work contracts and I need to get my insurance updated, presto. I can’t afford it to happen without insurance.

Regarding floaters - I have a big floater in the eye with a retinal tear. I hope they quickly figure out a way to deal with that issue. It’s all one step at a time right now for me.

An amusing followup last weekend. We were travelling for a wedding. I was at the mirror in the hotel room, brushing my teeth or some such, and glanced at the mirror and thought “that’s weird - the reflections of my eyes look odd, almost like they’re glowing or something” (like how eyes will reflect red in a flash or something).

Then I thought that maybe somehow I was seeing the edges of the implanted lenses. OK, weird, but I can see fine, so… :confused:

Then I looked and saw that it looked like my right eye’s lens edges weren’t centered, and I started freaking out. :eek:

Then I looked at the frame of the mirror, and realized it had a continuous light going all around the edge… and I was seeing that light reflected off my own eyes. :smack:

Sure enough, the reflections were, on closer inspection, quite square. I told my husband I felt like Bender the Futurama robot. :smiley:

Bumpdate for me:

I could tell that I couldn’t see quite as well as I used to; I refracted at 20/30 or worse at my followup visit a month or so back. And I definitely felt my nighttime vision was poorer - not as bad as pre-surgery, but not perfect either.

I had the right eye done (capsulotomy) 2 weeks ago on Monday. Not terribly pleasant, but not awful and it was reasonably fast; waiting around for dilating drops to work, then 5 minutes in a chair, then waiting around a bit more for a quick recheck. My vision in that eye was extremely blurry the rest of the day (which I’d been warned about); I basically slept most of the rest of the day anyway. Not because of sedation, just a regular nap; nothing but topical wsa used for the procedure.

The most unpleasant part was having the lens thingy on the eyeball. It adhered by some kind of gel, which felt icky. The doc did irrigate my eye a bit with saline afterward, but he couldn’t remove all of it w/o injuring the eye, so that contributed to the blurriness.

By the next day, it was back to normal. Annoyingly, I haven’t recovered distance vision in that eye. I think I have better night vision - when I’ve looked at lights with one eye versus the other, the right eye seemed to see the light as brighter.

I had the left eye done this past Monday. That was worse in some ways. Not the procedure itself - that was actually slightly faster - but they also dilated the right eye (to recheck the work) so when it was time to leave, I couldn’t see my phone well enough to order my Lyft to get home! I actually managed, but it took a few minutes. I was very close to asking someone from the office to book it for me.

I think I may have gotten more distance vision back in my left eye, though I’m not 100% sure. I go back in a week to recheck both eyes. Doc says I’m legal to drive, at least, so I still don’t need distance glasses. Once I’ve been through the recheck, I may look into prescription computer glasses - though given my habits with the cheap readers, I may see if I can find a way to attach a permanent strap to the computer readers.

I hope your recheck in a week goes well, Mama Zappa.

A bumpdate for me too. After having my L eye cataract surgery last January, my R eye was much weaker compared to the strong vision in my L eye. A few eye exams in the last 10 months revealed a slight cataract in my R eye. So, I had that R eye cataract surgery last Wednesday. I’m using reading glasses now to post this, and so far my R eye vision is decently clear and should continue to improve. I have a follow up next week.

Saw this thread pop up and since I’m the op…

My surgery was 8/18. So just over a year ago. Still very pleased with everything. I see great and need no glasses for anything. Now, I only had a cataract in one eye. Got a multi focal lens in that eye so it’s good for reading and distance. Works really well. I wear a multi focal contact in the other eye that performs the same way. It’s a disposable contact lens. Cost is about a buck a day. Amazing.